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danishmkvgti · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:22:48 am »

Why the dip in both hp and torque at 3500rpm??

Dan648v · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:38:24 am »

not sure what it is to be fair? we tried having a look and tweaking the figures on revo settings but nothing cahnged it. car is manual so no dsg limitations? car has no boost leaks, not sure on clutch wear but it doesnt seem to slip on the road? cant of been wheelspin cause its bolted to the dyno via the hubs?

ktlstar · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:48:13 am »

You on standard fuel pump ?

My standard fuel pump couldnt keep up with the requested fuel and dipped in the mid range! Fuel setting 9 should be kept on if you dont have a upgraded HPFP. I see people using 9 at stage2+ aswell.

Is there a particular reason for such a low timing ?

edit: You seem to have a dip on stock power.

rich83 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:50:32 am »

T2 is very low. What fuel are you using?

Should at T4 at least. Maybe higher if your getting low CF values.

Dan648v · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:58:00 am »

Quote from: ktlstar on January 03, 2012, 09:48:13 am

You on standard fuel pump ?

My standard fuel pump couldnt keep up with the requested fuel and dipped in the mid range! Fuel setting 9 should be kept on if you dont have a upgraded HPFP. I see people using 9 at stage2+ aswell.

Is there a particular reason for such a low timing ?

edit: You seem to have a dip on stock power.

im running a standard vw pump at the mo? you think this could be a prob? not sure on the timing, it was and is always run on shell vpower, i can ask will.

Quote from: richwig83 on January 03, 2012, 09:50:32 am

T2 is very low. What fuel are you using?

Should at T4 at least. Maybe higher if your getting low CF values.

car was run on shell vpower and always is, i think we tried higher timing but cant remember why it went back? CF values?

ktlstar · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:29:12 am »

Its a possibility.

However Revo says fuel should be set at 9 on standard internals. The lower the number the more fuel.

Timing is very low, mine is set at 6 at the moment for Vpower 99ron (revo Stage2. The lower the number is for people who can get good fuel i.e USA.

Stage 1 Revo recommend settings is B6 T5 F9 so how on earth stage2 is set at 2.

Go back there and data log the fueling.

rich83 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:33:32 am »

Quote from: ktlstar on January 03, 2012, 11:29:12 am

Its a possibility.

However Revo says fuel should be set at 9 on standard internals. The lower the number the more fuel.

Timing is very low, mine is set at 6 at the moment for Vpower 99ron (revo Stage2. The lower the number is for people who cant get good fuel i.e USA.

Stage 1 Revo recommend settings is B6 T5 F9 so how on earth stage2 is set at 2.

Go back there and data log the fueling.

Just edited that for accuracy, to avoid confusion.

CF - Correction Factor. They amount the the ECU has to retard timing, to avoid knocking.

From REVO documentation.

Timing Adjustment:
Range 0-3 91(US)/95(Euro) Octane Fuel
Range 4-6 93(US)/98(Euro) Octane Fuel
Range 7-9 Unleaded Race Fuel over 100 Octane

Dan648v · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2012, 12:21:56 pm »

Cheers for the replies lads. I've passed it onto Will so just waiting to here back now on what he thinks. Passed on a link to this thread aswell

Dan648v · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2012, 12:28:53 pm »

while its been dry and cold ive taken the golf for a good old drive and put it through its paces and that dip is definately not noticeable on the road!! this thing pulls like a train!

timing may be low but thats where no knock was detected, the timing did get put at 4 and made more torque and no extra power and started to introduce the slighest bit of knock at the top end. to introduce knock, however minute it is is pointless if i gain no power and torque!
this is not something that i or will wanted so the timing was pulled back! this is not a track car and is a daily that i wanted safe for many years to come, ive had cars on the limilt of tuning before and its not what i wanted from the golf!

i understand revo suggest certain settings for different states of tune but my wants and the characteristics of my engine are different to others and the car is where i want it to be so in honesty im not fussed

as for the curve and dip in power, this isnt the first graph ive seen like that and looking at my standard power it has the same dip as after revo! if i felt this on the road it would be a different matter but there is not hesitation or power loss!

i trust Will (who afterall is the Revo tuner) all smiles from me

just took delivery of these aswell, waiting on the warm weather now

ktlstar · « **Reply #24 on:** January 06, 2012, 12:58:50 pm »

Aslong as you cant feel the dip and your happy thats all that matters.

Good kit there, i have the same. I advice to take out the blue adjuster platforms as the car sits perfect without it. i.e no rubbing

Dan648v · « **Reply #25 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:31:42 pm »

Cheers mate. Also heard that because it's a hub dyno and more accurate than normal strap down dynos this dip can be one more apparent, who knows?

Rear adjusters?

You got a pic of your car? Feel free to post it in here

ktlstar · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:37:45 pm »

Here you go -

Thats how it is at the moment!

Dan648v · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:42:00 pm »

Looks well, Love the grey, was looking at that colour till my black one came up!
so Your all the way down at the back? How much on the front?

ktlstar · « **Reply #28 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:49:44 pm »

Fronts at that time were halfway, but now all the way down. didnt change much as still i can clear 1or2 fingers through the arch/wheels.

Same with the back, all the way down no adjusters.

Yeah i picked her up for for a steal price at just 13k miles on the clock.

Dan648v · « **Reply #29 on:** January 12, 2012, 01:01:58 pm »

-UPDATE-

well quite a few updates!! been a good few weeks for me!!

firstly, while hungover i decided to waste some time and try my luck with VW and try get my build number and plaque, emailed jenny @VW customer services and got through it seems when this landed at my door 4 days later!!

secondly, my retention docs got exepted to put my private plate on the golf (youll see where the username comes from

) so that got put on using legal pressed plates!!

finally, i had a quiet dry weekend with no plans so i decided to crack on and fit my coilovers. all went relly well apart from running out of daylight!!

got her up in the air and got busy, fronts went on pretty easily and the backs even easier!
-set the back all the way to low with both adjusters still in
-set the fronts and all the way done but wound back up by an inch

first impressions are great, its an AP coilover kit, ride is near on the same as stock, the tiniest bit stiffer but i like that!! the winner for me is tho that i love the stance now and how the car sits!! over the moon!!

i went for a blast and got some snaps while the sun was out! enjoy and comments welcomed lads