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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #510 on: February 14, 2012, 08:09:25 pm »
Very nice graphs there  :happy2: Exactly the sort of figures and curve you should get with a stage 1 remap.

R-Tecs dyno must over read torque a fair bit.  Thats 40lbft lower than you made up there isnt it?

Yes Sy is a bit lower, but I'm guessing any other dyno will over read against JKM's.

Not really.  Mine made less on a BAPRO dyno, the same on dynostar and consistently the same on all the other dyno dynamics rollers i have used.  its only when i start on dynojet, MAHA dynos that i start to get bigger figures

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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #511 on: February 14, 2012, 08:27:25 pm »
Seems to have made a bit more than the other Stage 1 K03's (I'd put that down to the pre-cat removal & K&N)

Does mine not count as stage 1 then?!?!?  :P

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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #512 on: February 14, 2012, 10:28:53 pm »
Seems to have made a bit more than the other Stage 1 K03's (I'd put that down to the pre-cat removal & K&N)

Does mine not count as stage 1 then?!?!?  :P
Gareth I'm gonna class yours as Stage 1.5 with that intake  :P

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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #513 on: February 15, 2012, 12:47:56 pm »
Very nice graphs there  :happy2: Exactly the sort of figures and curve you should get with a stage 1 remap.

R-Tecs dyno must over read torque a fair bit.  Thats 40lbft lower than you made up there isnt it?

Yes Sy is a bit lower, but I'm guessing any other dyno will over read against JKM's.

I'm pleased with how smooth the power & torque are, AFR is a bit up & down but it drives nicely so can't moan  :driver:

Seems to have made a bit more than the other Stage 1 K03's (I'd put that down to the pre-cat removal & K&N)

My rolling road reads about spot on when used correct..  You need to remember on site we have 2x rolling roads Bosch & V-Tech and 2x DD rolling roads on the estate which I used most days fro tuning, which means I dont chuck out wild power readings.

I am very happy with my stage1 custom remap results on JKMs rollings, but its easy to see where the torque has gone, why have they started the run at close on 2400rpm???

Not enough time for the ko3 to spool upto speed making the peak torqure higher in the rpm range 3300rpm less than 1000rpm for the turbo to full spool and hit peak load where the k03 can hit peak boost andf torque close on 2500rpm ???   :wink:   

I am still happy to claim 300+lbft.

If you look in the past JKM ran the dyno from 1500rpm and got higher peak torque numbers.
 
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http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/BRISKODA%2020%2001%2007/Briskoda%20RR%20Plots/FIFTEEN.gif

311lbft a run from 1600rpm and hitting load by 3100rpm as you can see where the N75 changes from spool up PID to post LDR  PID










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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #514 on: February 15, 2012, 01:28:37 pm »
Cheers Nick  :happy2:

That makes sense, I'll mention it to JKM at the next session  :wink:
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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #515 on: February 15, 2012, 03:01:36 pm »
Seems to have made a bit more than the other Stage 1 K03's (I'd put that down to the pre-cat removal & K&N)

Does mine not count as stage 1 then?!?!?  :P
Gareth I'm gonna class yours as Stage 1.5 with that intake  :P

Good figures BTW  :happy2: I want an intake now!!

In fairness to you, the pre cat removal has made a decent difference. Last time at JKM, a Revo Stg 1 made 236bhp, mine made 237bhp (on a stg 1 viezu map), and yours has run 241bhp - so i'd agree with your estimates of 5bhp extra from removing the pre cat.

Deffo need to get the hammer out now  :happy2:

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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #516 on: February 15, 2012, 07:15:14 pm »
Very nice graphs there  :happy2: Exactly the sort of figures and curve you should get with a stage 1 remap.

R-Tecs dyno must over read torque a fair bit.  Thats 40lbft lower than you made up there isnt it?

Yes Sy is a bit lower, but I'm guessing any other dyno will over read against JKM's.

I'm pleased with how smooth the power & torque are, AFR is a bit up & down but it drives nicely so can't moan  :driver:

Seems to have made a bit more than the other Stage 1 K03's (I'd put that down to the pre-cat removal & K&N)


The AFR is down to you still running the BTS lambda maps for component protection, I keep them in play for all TFSI maps with the CAT still in play, there are there for a reason I compromise on power to protect the engines hardware.  Just by going from 11.7:1 to 12.4:1 will give around 5-6hp on its own merits.  Get main CAT removed and you can run 13.1-12.4:1 across the board and more load request.  :driver:
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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #517 on: February 15, 2012, 08:43:51 pm »
Very nice graphs there  :happy2: Exactly the sort of figures and curve you should get with a stage 1 remap.

R-Tecs dyno must over read torque a fair bit.  Thats 40lbft lower than you made up there isnt it?

Yes Sy is a bit lower, but I'm guessing any other dyno will over read against JKM's.

I'm pleased with how smooth the power & torque are, AFR is a bit up & down but it drives nicely so can't moan  :driver:

Seems to have made a bit more than the other Stage 1 K03's (I'd put that down to the pre-cat removal & K&N)


The AFR is down to you still running the BTS lambda maps for component protection, I keep them in play for all TFSI maps with the CAT still in play, there are there for a reason I compromise on power to protect the engines hardware.  Just by going from 11.7:1 to 12.4:1 will give around 5-6hp on its own merits.  Get main CAT removed and you can run 13.1-12.4:1 across the board and more load request.  :driver:

Thanks Nick  :congrats:

A sports cat / down pipe is on the cards for 2012 - once the cam belt & water pump are replaced  :sad1:
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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #518 on: February 16, 2012, 05:54:25 pm »
Hello Everyone!

It was great meeting some of you at JKM.  Thanks for a good time.

It really seems like you guys and gals have a great group of enthusiasts going.

I apologize if I wasn't as talkative as usual for those that know me, it was cold, so cold for this Florida boy, and I was a little disappointed by JKM's heartbreaker of a dyno.

I look forward to the next meet and hope to get see more of you guys.

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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #519 on: February 16, 2012, 05:57:34 pm »
We always say, if you make good figures on JKMs rollers then you have a very good car.

Steves looked ALOT stronger throughout the entire rev range than all the K04s i have seen on there.

My car was 180hp standard.  Steves makes that at 3300rpm lol
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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #520 on: March 31, 2012, 03:04:51 pm »
Anyone else seen the photos from this months Golf +?

They've put mine down as a STAGE 4 remap!  :grin:
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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #521 on: March 31, 2012, 03:24:44 pm »
Anyone else seen the photos from this months Golf +?

They've put mine down as a STAGE 4 remap!  :grin:

Stage 4?? Lol surely someone must've noticed that was a typo due to the power output you got?? Lol

Will have to pop out and get this later, was wondering when it would be out.

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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #522 on: March 31, 2012, 04:38:22 pm »
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Re: JKM Rolling Road - 11th February 2012....
« Reply #523 on: March 31, 2012, 04:45:46 pm »
Trip to WHSmiths for me tomorrow then :happy2:
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