Feeling like turd in the morning?

[stealthwolf]

I would actually say look at what you eat, as well as when you eat. Download a sleep diary and fill it in honestly. Then analyse it. Sleep hygiene is important.

Despite saying all that, 50% of the time, there's no physical reason why people are tired.

[MattPoss]

Sometimes a desk job can make you a hell of a lot more fatigued by the end of the day than a manual job. It's just you have mental fatigue rather than physical. Sometimes it can be worse and take longer to recover from than physical fatigue.

I'm starting to find this out now having just changed jobs. I spent 5 years working as a Joiner and eventually a Working Site Foreman and i've just changed to a Construction Plant and Machinery Salesman. Although it's not strictly a desk job as i'm out on the road 90% of the time, I was coming home more tired than when I was doing physical work all day which I found strange to start with

Matt

[Leonard]

Id start doing some exercise in the morning/evening then, should energize you early on and then make you tired before bed.

Once you have a pattern going (and get out of your current one) you will be fine. I cycle to work Tues and Thurs now 40 mile round trip and do a big 50-80 miler at weekend. Body naturally wants to sleep at 10ish at get up at 6-30am. Plus the exercise actually gives you more energy than doing nothing. Plus you get to eat more and still lose weight, double bonus!

[rich83]

I would actually say look at what you eat, as well as when you eat. Download a sleep diary and fill it in honestly. Then analyse it. Sleep hygiene is important.

Despite saying all that, 50% of the time, there's no physical reason why people are tired.

I dont eat that badly to be honest, but I do eat at random times due to my occupation. Its been a stressful and long 2/3 weeks so that might no be helping at the moment.

[rich83]

I think the general consensus is that i need to stop being a lazy twit and do some exercise.   

[Leonard]

I think the general consensus is that i need to stop being a lazy twit and do some exercise.   

LOL honestly cant tell you how much it helps!

My job is stress city as well and without biking I would be stressed out to bursting point as well  So thats another reason to get off the sofa 

[VC]

That and some HRT patches 

[Frodo-anni]

Rich, feel exactly the same, my issue is geting to bed on time before 12-1am each day and getting up at 0630 to get to work on time.

I work at a desk all day and it really takes it out of me, im always tired and my mind never switches off. Im permantely working or studying 

[Hedge]

That and some HRT patches  

I think you can get them as suppositories now.  

[Tfsi_Mike]

Lack of serotonin. Most people suffer from it during the winter, some more than others.

A mate I work with suffers with this. SAD I think its called. It does stand for something but can't remember. Something to do with a lack of sunshine lol.

Workmates Missus suffers from this he was telling me this week. Bizzare

I can't stay in bed when I have time off but never feel great in a morning.  I blame the forum for consuming my sleep time 

[Beddie]

Add another one to the list Rich...

I know mine is down to not enough sleep, 1-2am until i get to bed and the alarm goes off at 5:40 so i'm making myself sort that out asap!

[VC]

That and some HRT patches 

I think you can get them as suppositories now. 

Keep your hormones away from my a$$ 

[sub39h]

Could also be just down to the amount of sleep your getting vs how tired you are.

Sometimes a desk job can make you a hell of a lot more fatigued by the end of the day than a manual job. It's just you have mental fatigue rather than physical. Sometimes it can be worse and take longer to recover from than physical fatigue.

How fit are you Rich? Do you do any exercise? 30 mins a day can help massively. Something as simple as a brisk walk with a dog if you have one. It will take you a bit to get used too but after 3-4 weeks you will feel the benefits.

If your already quite fit/active then it could be Seasonal Adjustment Disorder (SAD) as has been alluded too above.

Carl.. Im 28 but not very fit to be honest, I don't exercise regularly which is something im going to address soon. Im not massively over weight, could do with shedding a stone. I usually go to be between 12 and 2am, so that could be a massive factor.

I always feel at my best in the 2-4 hours before i go to sleep, which is probably why i end up staying up quite late.  

Im glad to hear that im not the only one, its been concerning me over the last 6 months.

Rich

sounds like you're a night owl, same as me. unfortunately the world doesn't sing to our tune, we just have to deal with getting up early 

at least at the minute i'm working in A&E so i'm always doing stupid hours. means i get a lot of lie ins, have my day, go to work, come back late and go to bed. for me that suits me down to the ground.

[Tamiyoman]

I think its partly down to settling your body in a routine, I work from home so go to bed between 12 and 1.30am but I dont get up until between 8.30 and 9.30am most mornings.

Used to have a gf a few back who had to be in bed for 11pm as she had to be up at 6am to get to work on time, I used to lie there in bed wide awake until 2am 

[Deako]

Diet and lack of Sun Rich. And definitely need more excercise.

Eat more fruit and fresh veg. Try not to eat too many simple carbs, especially snacking before bedtime. Dont eat chocolate, and try to avoid caffeine. Get more protein.

Take 12 fish oil per day.

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=146&prodid=581&cid=17&sid=0

^^ That fish oil.

Eat a breakfast that isnt high in fast burn carbs (in other words a crappy cereal). If you must eat cereal, make sure its decent oats. Always try and get plenty of protein for breakfast. Your body will start to burn excess carbs and fat stores. If you cant get protein, try and drink a fresh fruit smoothie. Bulk up with some natural fat free yoghurt and some milk.

Get a nice lunch thats high in protein and also got some vegetables. I eat a lovely omlette for lunch (not practical for everyone - but im lucky enough to get home for lunch). Or if you cant, then a decent meat salad with chicken or tuna.

All i eat for dinner is a decent piece of meat and a side salad or vegetable portion.

I feel fantastic every morning i get up. Even when/if i have a cold which is damn rare.

Always remember that good prep with food is the best way to stick to a good lifestyle. I try and plan my meals a week ahead.

I used to be a total gym rat as well, but just dont get the time these days. Walking the dogs, MTB and running are all the excercise i get. The Mrs likes to get me jumping about in front of the TV like a loon to some high impact aerobics as well. Also bedroom olympics are a great form of excercise!!! Get as much of that as possible.  

One last tip. This is one i struggle with. Get away from the laptop/pc a few hours before you go to bed. The light that is given off by the screen actually makes the mind more active. Its similar to a light given off by the spectrum of the sun (IIRC), which prepares the body for excercise. It can cause restlessness in bed.