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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #315 on: February 10, 2012, 07:19:09 pm »
Why was Lean Burn disabled? And have you any plans for a dealer in Ireland? I would be interested to try your map and compare it to my current one.

There was never an official statement from VW as to why.  They kinda just did it without making it public.

The rumors I've heard that are supposed to have come from Wolfsburg revolve around emissions problems and too high of a failure rate in the field.

I would like very much to have a dealer in Ireland.  Do you know any good places you could recommend?

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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #316 on: February 10, 2012, 08:03:33 pm »
Bit of a tangent question for Keith but does your upgrade K03 to K04 map utilise any of the tweaking/coding that you're now using in the K04 2+ Version 3 software?    

Could you answer this question please Keith

Oh, sorry man!

No, we have to develop it.  Its on the schedule!  Could use a car with the right mods and close to MK to help speed it up.  Which by the way, you seem to have.  :wink:

Lol.  Do you think the K04 still suffers from compressor surge. Is that one of the reasons I believe you backed of the boost a little in the rev range resulting in some strange RR graphs on your original calibration of any K04 equipped car.
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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #317 on: February 10, 2012, 08:09:53 pm »

How would surge manifest itself?  Sound of fluttering on WOT?

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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #318 on: February 10, 2012, 08:20:23 pm »
Just to mention Keith, my car is an AXX engine so even though the lean burn part my be turned off, us AXX engine boys and girl run a different piston crown to the later engines.  Would this affect calibration?
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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #319 on: February 10, 2012, 08:22:10 pm »
Bit of a tangent question for Keith but does your upgrade K03 to K04 map utilise any of the tweaking/coding that you're now using in the K04 2+ Version 3 software?    

Could you answer this question please Keith

Oh, sorry man!

No, we have to develop it.  Its on the schedule!  Could use a car with the right mods and close to MK to help speed it up.  Which by the way, you seem to have.  :wink:

Lol.  Do you think the K04 still suffers from compressor surge. Is that one of the reasons I believe you backed of the boost a little in the rev range resulting in some strange RR graphs on your original calibration of any K04 equipped car.


No problems with surge.

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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #320 on: February 10, 2012, 08:23:45 pm »
Just to mention Keith, my car is an AXX engine so even though the lean burn part my be turned off, us AXX engine boys and girl run a different piston crown to the later engines.  Would this affect calibration?

We offer specific calibrations for AXX engines.  The crowned pistons are good as they help eliminate some of the unburnt fuel that other engine codes suffer from with long injector on time durations.

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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #321 on: February 10, 2012, 08:24:52 pm »

How would surge manifest itself?  Sound of fluttering on WOT?

Sort of but you are not experiencing surge.  The sound you are hearing is normal.

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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #322 on: February 10, 2012, 08:27:02 pm »
Bit of a tangent question for Keith but does your upgrade K03 to K04 map utilise any of the tweaking/coding that you're now using in the K04 2+ Version 3 software?    

Could you answer this question please Keith

Oh, sorry man!

No, we have to develop it.  Its on the schedule!  Could use a car with the right mods and close to MK to help speed it up.  Which by the way, you seem to have.  :wink:

Lol.  Do you think the K04 still suffers from compressor surge. Is that one of the reasons I believe you backed of the boost a little in the rev range resulting in some strange RR graphs on your original calibration of any K04 equipped car.


No problems with surge.

But that was one of the reasons APR gave because of your lower than (insert rival)  BHP, Also where have all the other APR threads gone or is it just me  :smiley:
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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #323 on: February 10, 2012, 08:32:51 pm »
Bit of a tangent question for Keith but does your upgrade K03 to K04 map utilise any of the tweaking/coding that you're now using in the K04 2+ Version 3 software?    

Could you answer this question please Keith

Oh, sorry man!

No, we have to develop it.  Its on the schedule!  Could use a car with the right mods and close to MK to help speed it up.  Which by the way, you seem to have.  :wink:

Lol.  Do you think the K04 still suffers from compressor surge. Is that one of the reasons I believe you backed of the boost a little in the rev range resulting in some strange RR graphs on your original calibration of any K04 equipped car.


No problems with surge.

But that was one of the reasons APR gave because of your lower than (insert rival)  BHP, Also where have all the other APR threads gone or is it just me  :smiley:

Yeah, I know.  I think you'll find APR UK is able to get some things not on the standard menu.

I'll have more info about the different kinds of calibrations APR UK offers in the upcoming weeks.

V3.0 for 2.0T FSI ko4 engines and something called LP3 for 2.0 TSI ko3 engines are examples of the first products that will be new from APR, specifically for certains markets outside of 'merica.

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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #324 on: February 10, 2012, 08:49:07 pm »
Thats good, but are you saying that if you offered this TFSI K04 map that your offering to the UK market to the USA market,  they could suffer from surge,  or was the compessor surge thing a bit of scare tactics?
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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #325 on: February 10, 2012, 08:53:51 pm »
Thats good, but are you saying that if you offered this TFSI K04 map that your offering to the UK market to the USA market,  they could suffer from surge,  or was the compessor surge thing a bit of scare tactics?

I'll explain this in the upcoming weeks.

But yes, some of the products available in the UK may or may not be made available in the USA or other markets.

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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #326 on: February 10, 2012, 09:00:58 pm »
Thats good, but are you saying that if you offered this TFSI K04 map that your offering to the UK market to the USA market,  they could suffer from surge,  or was the compessor surge thing a bit of scare tactics?

I'll explain this in the upcoming weeks.

But yes, some of the products available in the UK may or may not be made available in the USA or other markets.

Sounds good, thanks for your replies. :happy2:  I do think all the APR threads that was on this site sould still be made available, not sure why you or the administrators would want them removed.  
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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #327 on: February 10, 2012, 11:27:58 pm »
Thats good, but are you saying that if you offered this TFSI K04 map that your offering to the UK market to the USA market,  they could suffer from surge,  or was the compessor surge thing a bit of scare tactics?

I'll explain this in the upcoming weeks.

But yes, some of the products available in the UK may or may not be made available in the USA or other markets.

Sounds good, thanks for your replies. :happy2:  I do think all the APR threads that was on this site sould still be made available, not sure why you or the administrators would want them removed. 

For me, censorship arouses suspicion.
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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #328 on: February 11, 2012, 05:33:47 am »
^^^ All the post where old and are not relevant to the new APR presence in the UK  :happy2:

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Re: APR stage 2+ v3.0
« Reply #329 on: February 11, 2012, 07:42:27 am »
gotta agree with ukdub here.
unless we have space issues , it should remain in sub folder
by that measure my 'old' review has to go too  :surprised:
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