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APR stage 2+ v3.0
djhorace:
I know all about travelling, trust me! 86 flights last year is proof of that one and already since 7th Jan, I am at 24 flights and know about the family, friends etc thing too. Thing is though, while it is admirable and all, you will probably also be on an ex-pat deal, promotion potential through having worked with the company abroad and have all the perks to go with it :wink:.
I realise the whole US prices being cheaper thing and all, but you have somewhat exaggerated the price of the Golf R there. It starts at $35k plus tax vs £31k here, so using the detail above, £23k vs £31k using 60p to $1 or 34% difference which is still less than the 42%.
Hopefully you realise where I am coming from here by the way - I am not trying to be an arse - I am really stuggling to understand what justifies such premium prices. I seriously doubt your potential customers here will give 2 toots about APR margins, costs or buying things at inflated prices to keep APR in business and you away from your family and friends. Sorry for being blunt, but thats the position I am in with my products and services and in all honesty, its the position you are in too.
Keith@APR:
--- Quote from: djhorace on March 07, 2012, 04:31:48 pm ---I know all about travelling, trust me! 86 flights last year is proof of that one and already since 7th Jan, I am at 24 flights and know about the family, friends etc thing too. Thing is though, while it is admirable and all, you will probably also be on an ex-pat deal, promotion potential through having worked with the company abroad and have all the perks to go with it :wink:.
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We should compare travels. I think you have more flights but I have more time in the air. Most of my flights are to Asia or America. :drinking: But yeah, you know where I'm coming from for sure.
I decided to do this simply for the challenge. There is no vertical movement available to me at APR, I'm the VP, so its purely out of a desire to see APR do well in the UK.
--- Quote from: djhorace on March 07, 2012, 04:31:48 pm --- realise the whole US prices being cheaper thing and all, but you have somewhat exaggerated the price of the Golf R there. It starts at $35k plus tax vs £31k here, so using the detail above, £23k vs £31k using 60p to $1 or 34% difference which is still less than the 42%.
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You have to remember the spec of the cars too. Almost all VW's are sold as "high spec" in America. When I was shopping for my Golf R over here I asked for a new Golf R and spec'ed it to what I would have gotten in America and was quoted 42k GBP.
--- Quote from: djhorace on March 07, 2012, 04:31:48 pm --- you realise where I am coming from here by the way - I am not trying to be an arse - I am really stuggling to understand what justifies such premium prices. I seriously doubt your potential customers here will give 2 toots about APR margins, costs or buying things at inflated prices to keep APR in business and you away from your family and friends. Sorry for being blunt, but thats the position I am in with my products and services and in all honesty, its the position you are in too.
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I understand completely and I really wish it was that simple for us. But again, the truth of the matter is that prices would go up in America, not down in the ROW.
djhorace:
As soon as you open a place in Aberdeen, I will happily discuss anything you want if I am in town :wink:. I will also happily take a spin in that Golf and see whats what with it. Of course, I don't expect that place to be open here any time this year :signLOL:
Regarding prices, do you realistically expect to be selling high volumes of APR products at those prices and do you think that it is fair and sustainable to keep prices low in the US at the expense of high prices the rest of the world? Surely the potential in the rest of the world is higher than the total US market?
Janner_Sy:
Isn't this thread about the V3.0 software!!
heavyd:
Seems to have gone off topic somewhat :surprised:
Whats happening with the gokart then Sy?
I think at the end of the day, people will go to whichever companies products they want to buy.
As far as the exhaust and apr fuel pump goes, they are supposed to be the best out there, so people are willing to pay the premium. as far as FMIC is concerned, people will obviously go down other routes with products that are considered equally as good, same goes for other APR products.
The fact still exists that there are places where you can import APR pumps from cheaper than here in the UK.
The remaps are on par pricewise as Revo, but as of yet, there arent enough people whom can give feedback on them in comparison to the competitors, so only time will tell as far as they are concerened
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