APR stage 2+ v3.0

[Poverty]

Revo was the most popular on the 2.0tfsi simply because they made the most power and where the quickest on that engine. Alot of people don't seem to rate the Revo map on the 1.8t or the older Audi s and rs cars. MRC seems to be most popular for those older turbo engines.

Revo then started loosing a bit of popularity through the flat spot and misfire issues, with their tech support saying that it must be an issue with the customers car ( a hell of alot of broken customers cars that was). Fast forward a 12-18 months later and they start advising customers to fit the rs4 valve to cure it. ( which it doesn't completely, but some other mappers have the same issue)

[danishmkvgti]

@ Keith:

Have you changed the map so it keeps the Lambda values above 0,80, so the cars won't run out of fuel at app. 5200rpm even with your own upgraded HPFP and the ECU starts reducing boost until it's within 20% of requested value?

I had that proble and you made me a testfile with that specification  

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7823.msg301843.html#msg301843

Sorta, on the Golf R specifically its different.  For older Audi S3's its different again.  The results are the same but the way to go about it is a little bit different.

On face value all ko4 cars are the same hardware and ecu's but looking into it deeper we've discovered that the software is not the same at all.

So a gti with AXX engine code and K04, S3 injectors and your HPFP will still have trouble above 5200rpm getting enough fuel?
Or do i read this wrong?  

Its relative to your perspective.  More load (power) requires more fuel than is available at a certain injector on time at a certain lambda that we typically like to calibrate to.  You can either request less load or a different lambda or tell the ecu to not care about the on time necessary to maintain the lambda we want.  Each of those opportunities however has its disadvantages in other areas.  In your specific case, you relayed you were cool with a leaner lambda so that's what we did.  Regarding the Golf R and Audi S3 there are some other methods that allow us to keep lambda where we like and injector on time within its parameters so they are different from your calibration and those options I first mentioned yet again.

It can be confusing and I know most people like to lump them all together but we've found that spending a lot of extra calibration time in several different markets around the world with each specific ECU and engine reiteration provides more opportunity than previously available.

There's also engineering and then marketing so I would prefer not to get into how "other companies" do it as I feel that is somebody's next question.  

Thank you Keith for your time 
I would say on the basis of my own experience that the APR sw for K04 built AXX/BWA engines is an excellent package for those that "just" want to go stage 1, meaning HPFP/intake(APR approved)/Downpipe(TBE) and want the convinience of having the CC to change programs.
IF they have removed the dip i experienced from 5200rpm as Keith says 

[Poverty]

Looks like dangb gets to play with the golf R soon!

[Keith@APR]

Thank you!

[Keith@APR]

Looks like dangb gets to play with the golf R soon!

Should be good times.

[ukdub]

Lol instigators rob? What are you trying to suggest lol?

Well we all remember the handbags that went on here a few years ago towards APR and the "video" and now these people are working with APR

Revo instigators now turned APR instigators although the reasons behind this im not aware of

I wonder what Jonnyc will say about that video now........ Still fake and he was right or its real and he was wrong

[Keith@APR]

Lol instigators rob? What are you trying to suggest lol?

Well we all remember the handbags that went on here a few years ago towards APR and the "video" and now these people are working with APR

Revo instigators now turned APR instigators although the reasons behind this im not aware of

I wonder what Jonnyc will say about that video now........ Still fake and he was right or its real and he was wrong

Ask him.  He is a stand up guy.  We've all put our trust in the wrong hands before to be let down in the long run at some point or another in our lives.

If anything, he should get mad respect for being an early adopter and having the gumption to keep searching for the best.

[Tfsi_Mike]

Haven't logged or dyno'd yet but certainly feels more eager and like more power is on tap.

Will take a bit of getting used to otherwise tyres might not last long.  A linear throttle pedal would be very useful.

Squeezing it on in third gettin back on the motorway leaving was bloody rapid and then spun up in 4th.

I am happy I now have an extra slot for a different map setting.

Looking forward to getting out and having a propper drive and doing a bit of logging to check everything is in check

I didn't expect to feel much difference with the update but it's quite clearly more aggressive.   

[Hedge]

A linear throttle pedal would be very useful.

 

[Keith@APR]

A linear throttle pedal would be very useful.

 

So, should I have this as an option?

[Hedge]

Oh yes Keith.

[Tfsi_Mike]

A linear throttle pedal would be very useful.

 

So, should I have this as an option?

I've only driven 100 miles so far but I think in any application it would be good to give more control.

The new map certainly comes on strong 

[rich83]

A linear throttle pedal would be very useful.

 

So, should I have this as an option?

Why not? In my honest opinion every tuner should make the throttle map as linear as possible as a standard part of their mapping. The standard throttle map is too aggressive once the engine is mapped. (IMO)

[Janner_Sy]

Mine has the linear map now and its a big improvement.

[R-tech-Nick]

A linear throttle pedal would be very useful.

 

So, should I have this as an option?

Why not? In my honest opinion every tuner should make the throttle map as linear as possible as a standard part of their mapping. The standard throttle map is too aggressive once the engine is mapped. (IMO)