Thanx Maxitrol, had until fairly recently a R32 but that met an early demise! insurance paid out and kept car as part of insurance, bought parts to sort out but wont be same and I suspect the geometry is out! so having had it in the way for a while I stripped it. selling parts to raise cash for Golf project. Also got a Mk1 Octavia Vrs thats been tuned 'a little' lol. driving around in a Ford mondingo estate at the moment, its not too bad to be honest. Want something to tune tho.