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Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« on: January 30, 2012, 06:13:43 pm »
Hi Gents

My Edition 30's brakes are definitely coming to the end of their life and wondering what to do - upgrade to an S3/R32 larger disc combo or perhaps (for now) an uprated front disc and performance pads kit? Does anyone know the best alternative to OEM discs? I understand the S3/R32 discs and calipers are quite a lot heavier than standard so perhaps negates the added efficiency of the bigger discs.....My car is standard in all respects at the moment but I'm considering a REVO remap in the future.

Can someone tell me if the weight difference is noticeable when driving?

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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 06:43:31 pm »
The benefits of the S3 brakes VASTLY out weighs the drawbacks of there weight. They add IMO added feel to the steering aswell as much improved braking. That said i chopped mine in for Forge 8 pots with 356mm 2 piece discs so what do i know  :laugh:
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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 07:09:43 pm »
Paul... they are loads heavily and it probably makes the front end a fraction crashy, but worth it for the stopping power.

I would suggest buying some OEM 312mm brake discs and some Ferodo DS2500 brake pads.

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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 07:14:58 pm »
Cheers Rich + RS6BRIT

You said the same when I saw you Rich - my memory is fading fast!

I'll order them up from TPS which is near me in Croydon....do you have the disc part numbers by chance?

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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 09:39:42 am »
You could buy the NQSBBK from DaveB

Stopping power of the R32 with the weight of the GTI brakes  :smiley:
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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 10:00:28 am »
You could buy the NQSBBK from DaveB

Stopping power of the R32 with the weight of the GTI brakes  :smiley:

Drove mine last night for 1st time in a while and was reminded how brilliant te NQSBBK.

I'm a loon for changing to brake setup number 5 Next week! :laugh:

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Porsche NQSBBK front (oem Porsche pads & oem Gti discs) / S3 rears J hooked

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Porsche 996T calipers, 350mm jhooks, OEM Porsche pads front / S3 rears j hooked

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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 10:16:34 am »
Jeez Louise!

And you don't drive it much Mike?!? Hope you've managed to sell on the bits!

I think I'm going to see how a new set of OEM discs go unless anyone has a better idea.  Slightly concerned that Ferodo pads according to their website aren't for road use. Are they simply a harder compound and not as responsive until warm?




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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 10:29:10 am »
Jeez Louise!

And you don't drive it much Mike?!? Hope you've managed to sell on the bits!

I think I'm going to see how a new set of OEM discs go unless anyone has a better idea.  Slightly concerned that Ferodo pads according to their website aren't for road use. Are they simply a harder compound and not as responsive until warm?





You should feel an improvement with the feredo pads. Especially if your current setup is hammered.
Could try drilled or jhooked oem discs too.

Beyond that DaveB is your man for upgrades  :happy2:

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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 04:51:12 pm »
Jeez Louise!

And you don't drive it much Mike?!? Hope you've managed to sell on the bits!

I think I'm going to see how a new set of OEM discs go unless anyone has a better idea.  Slightly concerned that Ferodo pads according to their website aren't for road use. Are they simply a harder compound and not as responsive until warm?





Its usually because they are too bitey. There is a legal limit on how snatchy pads can be believe it or not, its some EU bull as usual. EBC bluestuff pads had trouble getting EU approval on this ground but i believe they are now approved for road use. 

I think it has to do with passenger comfort as if a pad has to much bite it can be uncomfortable for the passengers at low speeds.
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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 04:52:24 pm »
You could buy the NQSBBK from DaveB

Stopping power of the R32 with the weight of the GTI brakes  :smiley:

Drove mine last night for 1st time in a while and was reminded how brilliant te NQSBBK.

I'm a loon for changing to brake setup number 5 Next week! :laugh:

Oem Cupra front / oem Cupra rear

OEM Cupra front with drilled discs / OEM Cupra rear

Db9 front 345mm Cupra rotor / oem Cupra rear

Porsche NQSBBK front (oem Porsche pads & oem Gti discs) / oem Cupra rears

Porsche NQSBBK front (oem Porsche pads & oem Gti discs) / S3 rears J hooked

Porsche NQSBBK front (Pagid rs4-2 blue & j hooked rotors / s3 rears j hooked

Next week...

Porsche 996T calipers, 350mm jhooks, OEM Porsche pads front / S3 rears j hooked

Suppose technically it's seven setups  :surprised:



Come on Mike, when are you going to get some REALLY big ones ?   :laugh:
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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 04:56:57 pm »

This will be me now.  :innocent:

My ideal setup would be lightweight 4 pots and 2 piece 345mm rotors

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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 10:34:53 pm »
  Slightly concerned that Ferodo pads according to their website aren't for road use. Are they simply a harder compound and not as responsive until warm?


Any brake pads within the EU have to conform to 'Regulation 90' (ECE R90), this stipulates that any brake pad for road use has to comply with the requirements of reg 90 in respect to performance, fade etc to within a tolerance of no more than 15% of that of the original part...

The 15% tolerance is both under and above the original reference limit so means that any pad that exceeds the performance of the OE part by more than 15% is not technically road legal, coupled with that is also the fact that most 'limited' market pads (fast road/track pads etc) are never sent off for reg90 approval by the manufacturers due to the prohibitive costs involved for such a small relative market...

In reality a pad compound such as the Ferodo DS2500 will exceed the performance of the standard pads in both cold and hot benchmarks  :happy2:


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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 02:47:20 pm »
  Slightly concerned that Ferodo pads according to their website aren't for road use. Are they simply a harder compound and not as responsive until warm?


Any brake pads within the EU have to conform to 'Regulation 90' (ECE R90), this stipulates that any brake pad for road use has to comply with the requirements of reg 90 in respect to performance, fade etc to within a tolerance of no more than 15% of that of the original part...

The 15% tolerance is both under and above the original reference limit so means that any pad that exceeds the performance of the OE part by more than 15% is not technically road legal, coupled with that is also the fact that most 'limited' market pads (fast road/track pads etc) are never sent off for reg90 approval by the manufacturers due to the prohibitive costs involved for such a small relative market...

In reality a pad compound such as the Ferodo DS2500 will exceed the performance of the standard pads in both cold and hot benchmarks  :happy2:

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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 10:52:48 pm »

Come on Mike, when are you going to get some REALLY big ones ?   :laugh:




Collected them tonight :-)

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Re: Replacement Edition 30 Brake discs and pads
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 04:26:15 pm »

Come on Mike, when are you going to get some REALLY big ones ?   :laugh:




Collected them tonight :-)

SWEET, they look the part mate. When you going to get them on there ?  Whilst I have you, did you notice a difference when you fitted the R32 rears ? I picked up a set and will be fitting them shortly, but wondered if they made a real world difference or only showed their potential when REALLY pushed hard ?
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