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Teutonic_Tamer:

--- Quote from: andrewparker on February 06, 2012, 04:41:47 pm ---Very interesting, and quite surprising. These were going to be my next tyres, mainly because of the great reviews I've read elsewhere, that now seem to contradict yours.
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Personally, I never trust these generic reviews on the dedicated tyre review sites - think Trip Advisor - same kinda problems.

And you can't really trust the manufacturers either - Michelin told a few porkies when they initially released the PS3.



--- Quote from: andrewparker on February 06, 2012, 04:41:47 pm ---I wonder whether Continental would be willing to answer your question on whether the North American versions are significantly different.
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Difficult.  Continental are generally very un-coperative when 'wrong' tyres are used.  I remember a thread on Audi-Sport.net quite a few years ago - some chap had a blowout on recently new Contis - he basically tried like hell to get it rectified from his tyre supplier - but his tyres were not 'official' tyres.  Conti, being their usual Germanic masters of few words, basically said his tyres were not authorised for use in the UK - end of story!  Naturally, this chap who had the blowout was very unhappy.  It was only when I discovered the thread on ASN - I looked at his photos of the damaged tyre - and I could clearly see the web address was spelt with the yankie 'tire'.  I posted to the effect that they were yankie 'tires', and that Conti were perfectly within their right NOT to support a product which hadn't officially been designed for UK/EU - and the thread went quiet.

I'm in a similar situation - ALL of the 'major' high street tyre retailers (ATS, Kwik-Fit, National Tyre, Formula 1 Autocentre) - all told me that Continental specifically stated the 5P had then not been released in the UK.  Like I said in the OP, I was fully aware that these were US tires tyres, and accepted the risk that they wouldn't be 'warranted' by Continental.

And I'm not sure there will be any dramatic, big difference between EU and US specs - but I could be wrong?!?!?!

Teutonic_Tamer:

--- Quote from: john_o on February 06, 2012, 04:51:39 pm ---ok so the key point is whether the abysmal (and contradictory to new reviews) performance is down to
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See my post above this one.  Mark Twain probably has the answer!  :wink:



--- Quote from: john_o on February 06, 2012, 04:51:39 pm ---a) using the wrong tyres (MO spec) ?
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The 'wrong' spec is nothing to do with MO - the wrong spec is wholly due to the fact that these tyres are specifially for the North American market.

I currently have the BMW * rated tyres on my RS4 (PS2s) - and they are absolutely no different to the Audi-specific RO1 specs which were on before.  I have the official Michelin technical guide (supposed to be only used by ATS tyre dealers  :wink:) - and it lists all the 'manufacturer' specific tyre codes - and it categorically states that MO tyres can be used on ALL makes of cars.  The ONLY specific codes you categorically need to avoid are the Porsche specific N codes - these are a disaster when fitted to cars other than Porkers - speaking from painful experience!



--- Quote from: john_o on February 06, 2012, 04:51:39 pm ---I too have PS3 all round and was going to plump for the SC5 before this review  :surprised:
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Remind me what trait of the PS3 you don't like?

Personally, for all their faults, IMVHO, the PS3 is a much better tyre than the CSC 5P.



--- Quote from: john_o on February 06, 2012, 04:51:39 pm ---(FWIW I feel the PS3 are pretty abysmal in the first few miles til they warm up too)
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Hmmm - I don't push my cars until the engine and transmission is fully warmed up - so I can't honestly say I noticed the PS3s being iffy when cold.



--- Quote from: john_o on February 06, 2012, 04:51:39 pm ---thanks for the review TT  :happy2:
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You're welcome - thanks for the 'thanks'!  :happy2:

E30Dom:
I do wonder if the '5P' is different from the '5' i have fitted all round as I cannot fault them, great in dry and confidence inspiring in the wet... I'm running mine 225/40 92y at 39psi allround, they are comfortable and quiet...

So woul dbe interested in seeing if there's a difference...

Also what are your wear patterns at 42-48psi? My guess would be your centres wear before your shoulders...

I used to run my mk5 r32 on 40psi as recommended, but found the centres wore quicker(sign of overinflation) dropped to 39psi and wore evenly...

Andy:
The mo spec just means they are suitable for mercs---thier is more to tyre fitting than a few noises :grin:

Teutonic_Tamer:

--- Quote from: E30Dom on February 07, 2012, 01:30:09 pm ---I do wonder if the '5P' is different from the '5' i have fitted all round as I cannot fault them, great in dry and confidence inspiring in the wet... I'm running mine 225/40 92y at 39psi allround, they are comfortable and quiet...
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ContiSportContact range overview - http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/uk/en/continental/automobile/themes/car-tyres/standard-car-tyres/contisportcontact/contisportcontact-en.html

ContiSportContact 5 - http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/uk/en/continental/automobile/themes/car-tyres/standard-car-tyres/contisportcontact/contisportcontact-5/contisportcontact-5.html

ContiSportContact 5P - http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/uk/en/continental/automobile/themes/car-tyres/standard-car-tyres/contisportcontact/contisportcontact-5-p/contisportcontact-5-p.html

It looks like the plain 5 is more of an 'eco' tyre (albeit high performance) used on lard barges like Audi A8s and Merc S class, whereas the 5P is supposed to be the next step up - ie hyper sports.  Basically, the 5P should be more grippy than the 5.  I certainly wouldn't put these tyres on my RS4!  :sick:



--- Quote from: E30Dom on February 07, 2012, 01:30:09 pm ---So woul dbe interested in seeing if there's a difference...
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Maybe it is the yankie spec?  :sad1:



--- Quote from: E30Dom on February 07, 2012, 01:30:09 pm ---Also what are your wear patterns at 42-48psi? My guess would be your centres wear before your shoulders...
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Perfectly even across the tread width.  Modern quality radial tyres have a steel belt under the tread - and so should not wear the centre of the tread out when running high pressures.  OK, there are some <cough> lesser quality tyres - like Dunflop, PirHELLi, Pukohama - which have very weak carcasses, and will be more prone to differing wear patterns with differing pressures.  Both Michelin and Continental can easily cope with high pressures without affecting wear.



--- Quote from: E30Dom on February 07, 2012, 01:30:09 pm ---I used to run my mk5 r32 on 40psi as recommended, but found the centres wore quicker(sign of overinflation) dropped to 39psi and wore evenly...
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Hmmmm . . . an adjustment of ONE psi will not alter wear patterns!

What tyres were you using?

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