How low can you go?

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

That's the one!

We got any more brown trouser aviation vids?

[QD MBE]

Fag paper close, .......... nearly got it wrong........the legendary St Maartens airport....

Lightning strike.

[Little_Dave]

Probably one of the naughtiest landings thats been caught on film at work during some seriously evil crosswinds

[JJ]

Mind Your Head (and the language!)...

[Bane]

Probably one of the naughtiest landings thats been caught on film at work during some seriously evil crosswinds

I've seen that a few times and wonder if that particular RJ100 ever saw service again...the landing gear would certainly need attention after that!
not to mention the spines of a few of the passengers and crew.....

[Little_Dave]

As far as i know that particular plane is still flying, they do take a real battering when the winds get up, a few others that have had lighter more delicate landings have sustained serious airframe damage and been taken to the vet 

Dave

[Hedge]

Apache.  

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

Probably one of the naughtiest landings thats been caught on film at work during some seriously evil crosswinds

I've seen that a few times and wonder if that particular RJ100 ever saw service again...the landing gear would certainly need attention after that!
not to mention the spines of a few of the passengers and crew.....

That RJ was on stand at City for ages they did eventually fly it out of there but only to a repair centre as the parking charges were horrendous at City airport, I've flown into City a few times, it's so easy to get caught out in exactly the same way that RJ did huge sink rates followed by a "positive" touchdown....

the glideslope is twice as steep and the decision height at which you decide to land is twice as high as a usual airport, together with some white lights on the runway which if you're not on the deck by them it's a mandatory go around!! So a perfect storm for that kind of incident surprised it doesn't happen more often

A go around at London City could take 30 minutes and invariably you go in their not over endowed with Gas because it's not a long runway

[gazbutS3]

Dave, how much influence does the pilot have in correcting that once its landed???

[Little_Dave]

Probably one of the naughtiest landings thats been caught on film at work during some seriously evil crosswinds

I've seen that a few times and wonder if that particular RJ100 ever saw service again...the landing gear would certainly need attention after that!
not to mention the spines of a few of the passengers and crew.....

That RJ was on stand at City for ages they did eventually fly it out of there but only to a repair centre as the parking charges were horrendous at City airport, I've flown into City a few times, it's so easy to get caught out in exactly the same way that RJ did huge sink rates followed by a "positive" touchdown....

the glideslope is twice as steep and the decision height at which you decide to land is twice as high as a usual airport, together with some white lights on the runway which if you're not on the deck by them it's a mandatory go around!! So a perfect storm for that kind of incident surprised it doesn't happen more often

A go around at London City could take 30 minutes and invariably you go in their not over endowed with Gas because it's not a long runway

Depending on what approach you come in on its even steeper and shorter on the canary wharf side, think only 2 planes since i've been there have been written off due to hard landings, had another swiss RJ land and hit its bottom on the runway and damage the main 'root spar' i think its called and got barged over the dock to UEL to be stripped and sent away for stress  and fatigue fracture x-rays etc, another was a BAe146 that ended up getting fenced off on stand and stripped and cut up for spares 

The pilots definitely earn thier money on wind sept days  but probably get little thanks from the passengers who look rather green when they get off 

Dave

[gazbutS3]

I've worked on plenty of 146's and RJ's and they aren't the most durable of aircraft TBH, built for economy/lightweight rather than strength 

and it was probably the spar-root   : , they don't make the RJ's anymore and I've seen a brand new one stripped for spares recently

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

Dave, how much influence does the pilot have in correcting that once its landed???

It's a bit of a cliche but the landings not over till you pull onto stand, hes touched down and bounced and then tried to land it again, hence the nose wheel landing and then the two wheel brown trouser moment.

After a bouncing arrival best to just keep pulling and make sure the mains take the pain, if you try to right a wrong the ground shall rise up and smight thine nose wheel like in the vid

There some basic errors in there, he's too much sink on landing and no into wind aileron on rollout as he was distracted by the arrival which led to it all going tits up, the 146 is actually quite narrow in track for its wingspan same as my steed so technique is touchdown, Into wind aileron and heavy braking, spoilers then reverse...it gets all the energy out of the wing and gets the weight on the wheels...

It's a double whammy for pax being shaken not stirred on approach and then banging their heads on the seat in front with max autobrake!

It's pretty much avoided now with predictive windshear technology, my avionics are latest gen and I even get two colour windshear warning red/yellow to predict either increasing or decreasing performance....red means you get the f*ck out of dodge and I'd probably bug out on yellow too especially at City

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

This ones a good one whilst we're discussing hard landings

MD80 test pilot.......

[MAT ED30]

  

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

Ahhh don't worry went to fly for Alaskan and did a stretch with Airtours once they'd patched it up......