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Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« on: February 14, 2012, 08:42:03 pm »
Has anyone got shark stage 3 on their edition 30 golf and how does it compare to revos stage 2+ looking into stage 1 at some point and can't decide between Revo or shark I have always based my ideas around revo stage 2+ so obviously if this is my long term goal then maybe it's worth going Revo stage 1 but a friend of mine recently had is car mapped at shark and he was mega impressed.

Also is anyone running sharks DSG software? 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I dont want to have sharks stage 1 and DSG to later have to pay full price for revos stage 2+

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 08:54:42 pm »
HeavyD on here has had both, probably the best person to ask.

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 09:13:07 pm »
The guys who have had Shark with DSG seem to have strange occurances with gear changes and torque limiting.  They might have been isolated incidents though

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 09:58:23 pm »
I had Shark Stg 1 on K03 DSG.

Didn't work well with the DSG - weird torque lag post shift. I alerted Shark to my issue, and was told it was a DSG issue that could only be solved by a DSG remap.

Folk on here suggested it was an engine map issue, as no such problem was found with Revo (and others).

I put it to Shark that it was their map, and perhaps they might investigate. That discussion didn't go anywhere.

I now have Revo stg 1, and the DSG works fine.

If you fancy chancing that my case was isolated, then I have a Shark STS device you can buy for £90 and save yourself £60 on the full retail price. It is in as new condition.

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 10:50:22 pm »
Well to put in bluntly, I had shark stage 3, and have now thrown that money away and gone back to Revo.

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 10:53:40 pm »
Thanks for all the feedback guys think that has answered my question best get saving lol

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 11:11:48 pm »
GoAPR  :wink:

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 11:18:42 pm »
I am :driver:

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2012, 05:52:58 pm »
Thanks for all the feedback guys think that has answered my question best get saving lol

It's a bu99er when my morals get in the way of trying to bank £90 and offload my STS device......!

Enjoy whatever you choose.

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2012, 06:38:33 pm »
I appreciate the honesty tho mate   :happy2:

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 06:57:38 pm »
News from Shark regarding stage 3 software on a golf will be coming very soon as they have been playing with Millteks Golf R and achieved very good results by all accounts.

The DSG remap is a requirement as the torque limiting on ED30's and S3's does prove a problem.

I appreciate this is a biased review but take from it what you will  :happy2:

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 07:32:19 pm »
Coming very soon??
I had 7 versions of it last year :confused:

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 07:42:01 pm »
So if you have dsg and want thd shark map you also have to get dsg software! That makes an expensive map

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2012, 07:51:32 pm »
The DSG remap is a requirement as the torque limiting on ED30's and S3's does prove a problem.

My K03 hit the in-gear torque limit (not a problem in itself), but it was the post shift lag that frustrated. On a stock map, or Revo stage-1 I have not experienced the same post-shift lag annoyance.

As a slight aside, if g/s readings from the MAF are a fair comparison of torque and power, then on the Revo calibration my engine is producing more of both at any given point in the rev range. If anything the Revo cal' should be causing more gearbox woes than the Shark map did, but it is absolutely fine.

I wanted to be impressed with the Shark map, and wanted to try an alternative to the default Revo option - good to help the smaller companies and encourage competition. Sadly it proved a poor investment.

Maybe, just maybe I was sent the wrong map for my engine / gearbox combination, but whatever the situation my concerns weren't ever resolved or dealt with in what I'd consider an appropriate way.

So if you have dsg and want thd shark map you also have to get dsg software! That makes an expensive map

Which can't be applied by the STS as I understand things, so dictates a visit to Shark HQ or one of their agents. Limits the appeal to many I should imagine.

I had the option at the point of experiencing post-shift problems to stick with the Shark engine map and apply the DSG map to "cure" my issue. After the thread on this forum, and sniffing around elsewhere, I concluded that I shouldn't have a problem with just the stg-1 which in my mind threw the competence of Shark into question.

For the benefit of the OP, this is the thread in which the post-shift woes were discussed.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36417.0.html
« Last Edit: February 15, 2012, 08:21:01 pm by alackofspeed »

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Re: Shark stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 07:55:26 pm »
It seems the same with Revo? You don't 'have' to haveit, but it gets the most out of the car. It isn't something I can do at the moment as I haven't got the tool, so not a requirement.

Taken from Revo website

DSG transmission performance software allows you to use the full potential of the engine, giving the control back to the driver. Hold onto the gear through that sweeping corner without the worry of the transmission shifting up and throwing out the balance of the car, have no worries about using full throttle and having the car jump about whilst shifting down for you… get back in full control with Revo DSG software.
Revo DSG software can be run on a standard car and it complements our full Revo Stage 1 ECU software.

HeavyD - your car was also a little poorly to be fair wasnt it?