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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2012, 12:47:36 pm »
for mechanical sympathy try not to accelerate in high gears at low rpm as it destroys the clutch.

Chage down a gear and accelerate that way instead.  Then you will preserve the life of the clutch :happy2:


???????


Why this? How should low revs be able to harm the clutch?  :fighting:
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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2012, 12:51:42 pm »
for mechanical sympathy try not to accelerate in high gears at low rpm as it destroys the clutch.

Chage down a gear and accelerate that way instead.  Then you will preserve the life of the clutch :happy2:

Great advice, GTI clutches are the weak link and since i had to fork out for clutch and flywheel I never floor it in high gears, just drop a gear or 2 and use the revs

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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2012, 12:53:25 pm »
for mechanical sympathy try not to accelerate in high gears at low rpm as it destroys the clutch.

Chage down a gear and accelerate that way instead.  Then you will preserve the life of the clutch :happy2:


???????


Why this? How should low revs be able to harm the clutch?  :fighting:

Agreed!!!??? Why would this wear the clutch seeing as it would all ready be in gear? Also this is a very strange topic, when I drive if won't to go slow I drive slowly if I want to drive quick I just put my foot down??? Its not rocket science mate!!!

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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2012, 12:56:32 pm »
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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2012, 12:57:39 pm »
How a gti should be driven!!!!   :driver:

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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2012, 01:10:06 pm »

For mechanical sympathy try not to accelerate in high gears at low rpm as it destroys the clutch.

Change down a gear and accelerate that way instead.  Then you will preserve the life of the clutch
:happy2:


....Excellent advice!  :happy2:

Not only will you not rely on low revs torque (not good for engine longevity if over used) but driving  and handling will be SAFER < If I have to explain why, then you probably wouldn't understand!


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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2012, 01:15:23 pm »
for mechanical sympathy try not to accelerate in high gears at low rpm as it destroys the clutch.

Chage down a gear and accelerate that way instead.  Then you will preserve the life of the clutch :happy2:


???????


Why this? How should low revs be able to harm the clutch?  :fighting:
You seem to be the 'no it all' in all things modifying. Are we about to get into the you know more thsan everyone else threads again? :fighting2:

Peak torque occurs at low revs, so if you are in 6th gear at 60mph and stick your foot down you will have a longer period of the clutch being subjected to peak torque and can and will likely cause premature clutchwear and clutch slip.

By changing down a gear you raise the revs.  So not only will yoyu make better progress as more power is available, you will be running with less torque so wear and tear on the clutch is reduced=longer clutch life.

toque kills clutches, not power

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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2012, 01:16:47 pm »
for mechanical sympathy try not to accelerate in high gears at low rpm as it destroys the clutch.

Chage down a gear and accelerate that way instead.  Then you will preserve the life of the clutch :happy2:


???????


Why this? How should low revs be able to harm the clutch?  :fighting:


Agreed!!!??? Why would this wear the clutch seeing as it would all ready be in gear? Also this is a very strange topic, when I drive if won't to go slow I drive slowly if I want to drive quick I just put my foot down??? Its not rocket science mate!!!

Im not talking about dumping the clutch in a traffic light grand prix 0-60, obviously that wont help wear and tear. 

Manual clutches on the TFSI engines are widely known for clutch slip, and the scenario when this occurs involve low rev, high gear accelerating.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2012, 01:33:35 pm by Janner_Sy »

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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2012, 01:27:40 pm »
 :popcornsoda: this topic is so amusing, basically your asking how to drive a car.  :driver: DSG may assist better!
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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2012, 01:31:19 pm »
 :driver: DSG may assist better!

Another point to back up my points above is DSG.

If your in a high gear low rev scenario, ie 60mph cruise and gradually stick your foot down, the DSG WILL change down gears for you in auto mode.  it does this to preserve the clutch.  

Probably a large contributing factor to manual clutches being much more prone to slipping as DSG removes the lack of ability/knowledge of drivers
from the equation

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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2012, 05:58:26 pm »
1
Look at the floorboard; you'll see 3 pedals. From left to right, they are: clutch, brake, gas.

2
Study the simple diagram on the top of the gearshift, which will show you where the gears are. In most new cars, this will look like a three-legged H. First, third and fifth gears are at the tops of the legs; second, fourth and reverse gears are at the bottoms. The crossbar of the H is neutral.

3
Make sure the parking brake is engaged and the car is on a flat surface in an area where you have plenty of room.

4
Press down on the clutch pedal and then move the gearshift into the neutral position.

5
Start the car.

6
Keeping the clutch pedal down, put the car into first gear by moving the gearshift to the top-left position.

7
Apply the foot brake and release the parking brake.

8
Release the foot brake when you're ready to start moving.

9
Begin to release the clutch pedal slowly; when you hear or feel the engine begin to slow down, slowly press down on the gas pedal as you continue to release the clutch. The car will start to move forward.

10
Accelerate until the car has reached about 3,000 rpm, then take your foot off the gas, press down on the clutch pedal, and pull the gearshift directly down through neutral to second gear. Be sure to pull the gearshift down until it can't go any farther.

11
Release the clutch pedal gently, simultaneously pressing down gently on the gas pedal.

12
Repeat the shifting process each time you hit 3,000 rpm until you're driving at the appropriate speed. (Third gear is up and to the right; fourth gear is all the way down from there; fifth gear is up to neutral, right and then up again.)

13
Downshift by releasing the gas pedal when you want to decrease your speed. Press down on the clutch and move the gearshift through neutral into the next-lower gear (move down only 1 gear at a time). Once you're in the lower gear, release the clutch slowly and brake as you do so.

14
Stop the car by downshifting to second gear and applying the brakes. Apply the clutch just before the car stops. Don't downshift into first.

15
Drive in reverse by following the same steps you would for starting in first gear. The reverse gear engages more quickly than first gear, however, so be sure to release the clutch slowly and begin to press the gas pedal as soon as the car begins to move

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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2012, 06:02:22 pm »
^^^^I believe you are taking the piss sir.!

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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2012, 06:05:41 pm »

^^^^I believe you are taking the piss sir.!


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Re: How to drive the GTI?
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2012, 06:55:42 pm »
Quality write up Maxload   :congrats:

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280 Nm still remain 280 Nm
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2012, 10:03:22 pm »
for mechanical sympathy try not to accelerate in high gears at low rpm as it destroys the clutch.

Chage down a gear and accelerate that way instead.  Then you will preserve the life of the clutch :happy2:

Great advice, GTI clutches are the weak link and since i had to fork out for clutch and flywheel I never floor it in high gears, just drop a gear or 2 and use the revs

No. Still nonsense.  :popcornsoda:


Not only will you not rely on low revs torque (not good for engine longevity if over used) but driving  and handling will be SAFER < If I have to explain why, then you probably wouldn't understand!

Robin, if you have enough acceleration, why change gear? This might be some kind
of philosophy, but the next point is not a question of taste but engineering:

There is also no reliability issue though. Today's engines are capable to stand full
throttle from idle on. There's enough oil pressure and perfect clean combustion.


You seem to be the 'no it all' in all things modifying. Are we about to get into the you know more thsan everyone else threads again? :fighting2:

Peak torque occurs at low revs, so if you are in 6th gear at 60mph and stick your foot down you will have a longer period of the clutch being subjected to peak torque and can and will likely cause premature clutchwear and clutch slip.

By changing down a gear you raise the revs.  So not only will yoyu make better progress as more power is available, you will be running with less torque so wear and tear on the clutch is reduced=longer clutch life.

toque kills clutches, not power

What? Hey, I guess you learned that I was right in the coating thread. Will
you talk about driving or just talk about forum members? If you aren't able
to hear different opinions you should talk to your own.

But that's not the point.

The point is that here again some people tell stories based from rumors.

Let me explain why:

Yes, torque kills clutches. But don't matter what rev - 280 Nm remain 280 Nm
and no healthy clutch will be destroyed by 280 Nm !!

Yes, if you have a weak clutch it is a way to get home if you avoid high gears
and full throttle. But that's a completely different thing.

We are NOT talking about fully mapped engines with 330 BHP and 470 Nm !!


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Why this? How should low revs be able to harm the clutch?  :fighting:

Agreed!!!??? Why would this wear the clutch seeing as it would all ready be in gear? Also this is a very strange topic, when I drive if won't to go slow I drive slowly if I want to drive quick I just put my foot down??? Its not rocket science mate!!!

 :happy2:
« Last Edit: February 17, 2012, 10:10:26 pm by the bruce »
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