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Flushing < Is this worth it?
« on: February 16, 2012, 11:38:28 pm »
With high mileage diesels (100k) is this sort of thing worth doing/using?




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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 11:41:43 pm »
+1 I'd like to know too :popcorn:
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 11:50:26 pm »
Been also told - every now and again you should flush you engine with oil.....I believe you run oil through the engine (with sump plug out) while hot

Not sure if this is correct?
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 08:26:17 am »
That should be interesting.  :popcornsoda:
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 08:37:40 am »
I seem to remember reading a TSB which vehemently indicated that these type of flushes were not VAG approved and were not to be used.  There was some lengthy debate on Briskoda as many people were having these added to their invoice by main dealers despite them not being approved.
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 09:12:27 am »
I use Forte once a year usually before the MOT.

Also as for oil flush, last summer I had a sudden tappet noise, I ran Wynn's engine flush as instructed, drained the oil (jonny keep the sump plug in), changed the oil and filters and noise had gone.

If you do use any sort of flushing fluid, make sure you have everything needed for getting it out the system and to replenish your oil etc.
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 09:18:14 am »
Quote from: Johnny_tro on February 16, 2012, 11:50:26 pm
Been also told - every now and again you should flush you engine with oil.....I believe you run oil through the engine (with sump plug out) while hot

Not sure if this is correct?


That's a big NO unless you want to seize your engine very quickly ! Sump plug should always be in while engine is running along with the oil !
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 09:45:27 am »
Apprciate the tips < please dont worry I will not be attempting this myself.

As for Forte < there is a VW garage near me that recomends it........

Do we have 'top 5 tips' to giving the engine a clean? clearing out the cobwebs so to speak
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 12:11:39 pm »
For what its worth I used Wurth engine flush in my previous vRS at 50k miles. I never had any issues with it and it was still going fine at 67k when I sold it and as far as I know the new owner hasn't had any issues either and the car now has 84k+ miles. However I then found that VAG were dead set against them so wouldn't do it again.
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 12:17:56 pm »
Quote from: higher1 on February 17, 2012, 09:18:14 am
Quote from: Johnny_tro on February 16, 2012, 11:50:26 pm
Been also told - every now and again you should flush you engine with oil.....I believe you run oil through the engine (with sump plug out) while hot

Not sure if this is correct?


That's a big NO unless you want to seize your engine very quickly ! Sump plug should always be in while engine is running along with the oil !

I didn't read that as though the engine would be running but oil simply poured in and allowed to run through and hence the engine being warm so that it flows more easily.
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2012, 12:29:54 pm »
Ooooo not while running!

I was told the best way to clean it through would be to....

1. Make sure the car is warm/hot - after a drive.
2. Remove the sump plug
3. Start putting the oil through and let in drain straight through.....

Kinda wash it out....and helps remove crap from the sump.
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2012, 01:44:46 pm »
Out of my experience Forté is one of the best additives on the market and when i worked in a garage it was all we used to recommend.

The reason VAG dealers do not like these sort of products is because most engine flushes are paraffin based which will strip protective coatings from inside the engine. They also cause the rubber seals to perish quicker as well.

As I believe Forté engine flush does not contain paraffin, Therefore making i safe to use in modern engines.

The link below show the product you need for a oil flush. The diesel treatment is for the fuel system.

http://www.forteuk.co.uk/product.php?id=43/Advanced_Formula_Motor_Flush

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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2012, 05:44:38 pm »
I used the forte treatment on my anni pd, as did Tony Danza on here, also on his anni pd, after 50k of build up put the full bottle in on half a tank and went for a drive. I continued to do this each year few weeks before the MOT service was due, was still running like a peach when i sold it with about 72k on it.
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 12:05:24 am »
i had the forte fuel stuff added to my 2008 gt tdi with 123k at my last full service & my car runs like a dream  :happy2:
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Re: Flushing < Is this worth it?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 01:11:07 pm »
Quote from: Johnny_tro on February 17, 2012, 12:29:54 pm
Ooooo not while running!

I was told the best way to clean it through would be to....

1. Make sure the car is warm/hot - after a drive.
2. Remove the sump plug
3. Start putting the oil through and let in drain straight through.....

Kinda wash it out....and helps remove crap from the sump.

Have a think about this, really. If your after a new engine, this is the way to go.
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