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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2012, 09:54:31 pm »
Quote from: Greeners on February 20, 2012, 09:52:26 pm
Quote from: Rhino on February 20, 2012, 09:48:18 pm
with the DSG can you use the gear lever to change, (by nudging it forward or back)



Yes I am aware of this thanks. Still not the same as changing gear in a manual is it? Still no clutch and it's a very sterile push forward or back!  :confused:

i think that was a question rather than a statement - and yes you can  :happy2:
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2012, 09:58:02 pm »

And there's a reason why 'Manual' starts with Man!
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2012, 10:04:10 pm »
after watching that video above im liking the DSG even more. (still saving for a gti)
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2012, 10:12:22 pm »
Quote from: Rhino on February 20, 2012, 10:04:10 pm
after watching that video above im liking the DSG even more. (still saving for a gti)


I've had my manual for over 6 months now, and it's brilliant. You have so much more control over changes and can adjust your driving to suit the conditions. Steve Sutcliffe did a test of DSG v Manual in the Golf R, and his 3 times in the DSG were identical, whereas his times in the manual were quite varied, showing that there is a lot more skill involved and room for driver error/excellence. The DSG is just too clinical and uninvolving for me.
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2012, 10:16:26 pm »
Quote from: Mk5 GTian on February 20, 2012, 09:58:02 pm

And there's a reason why 'Manual' starts with Man!


and why semi-automatic gives you a semi...
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2012, 10:20:16 pm »
Quote from: Mk5 GTian on February 20, 2012, 10:12:22 pm
Quote from: Rhino on February 20, 2012, 10:04:10 pm
after watching that video above im liking the DSG even more. (still saving for a gti)


I've had my manual for over 6 months now, and it's brilliant. You have so much more control over changes and can adjust your driving to suit the conditions. Steve Sutcliffe did a test of DSG v Manual in the Golf R, and his 3 times in the DSG were identical, whereas his times in the manual were quite varied, showing that there is a lot more skill involved and room for driver error/excellence. The DSG is just too clinical and uninvolving for me.

3 times the same is consistent in DSG, manual its down to how you feel on the day  :happy2: for me DSG is better economy, lower C02, quicker accelaration altho slower top speed by 1mph (for the once each year you get to use it  :P), Manual are for "Drivers" (Read control feaks stuck in the past), DSG is the future  :evilgrin:.


Had both like both, woudl have either, but currently liking DSG for ease........................  :drinking:

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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2012, 11:00:51 pm »
Quote from: Mk5 GTian on February 20, 2012, 09:58:02 pm

And there's a reason why 'Manual' starts with Man!

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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2012, 11:08:38 pm »
Quote from: nathangallo on February 20, 2012, 11:00:51 pm
Quote from: Mk5 GTian on February 20, 2012, 09:58:02 pm

And there's a reason why 'Manual' starts with Man!

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I was a die hard manual fan,all my cars before this was manual,but after test driving a dsg I fell for it..this is only my opinion as best for you to test drive both then decide
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2012, 11:12:33 pm »
Picked up DSG Eddy today and I'm really enjoying it so far.

I love the different way you can go about playing with changing gears on the car.

I think my favourite so far is simply driving along in D mode then dropping a couple of cogs via the paddle shifter you're off!

S mode is really good for flying starts too  :happy2:
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2012, 11:34:56 pm »
Quote from: Billy on February 20, 2012, 11:12:33 pm
Picked up DSG Eddy today and I'm really enjoying it so far.

I love the different way you can go about playing with changing gears on the car.

I think my favourite so far is simply driving along in D mode then dropping a couple of cogs via the paddle shifter you're off!

S mode is really good for flying starts too  :happy2:

S mode is mental  :laugh: :happy2:
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2012, 12:04:30 am »
I've had a DSG for a few months now - I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't think its a simple case of trying one in short test drive conditions and see if you like it, especially if like me you are used to manual. It has taken me about three months to master what is a new fast driving style to match the different faster characteristics of DSG!

For some its better, for others its worse. For me its neither - its just 'different'. DSG is great for the variety of ways you can change gear to suit conditions, moods etc. I get just as much fun blatting it about on B roads as I do in a manual car, but this is because I enjoy the new style of driving I've learnt. I wouldn't say it was necessarily better though. I've still yet to master the low speed throttle control which can be jerky in a quick pulling out of a junction type scenario. I would be better controlling the clutch myself then.

In some ways I liken it to someone developing a joystick for a car in place of the steering wheel. Theoretically some may think its great for maneoverablity or something, but for others who have always had a steering wheel it would be unthinkable. DSG in't your average auto so has attracted people like me who would normally default at a manual box. You don't get the 'feel' of a manual and the muscle memory that it requires, instead I find I use my eyes more with the rev counter and gear indicator, and get to keep both hands on the wheel. :driver:
 
 
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2012, 12:44:47 am »
Quote from: Kalpsn2000 on February 20, 2012, 04:46:02 pm
As you can see from the responses it comes down to personal preference. I started off looking for a manual but after testing the DSG I went for that as the changes were so quick and smooth.

Best to try both and see what you prefer.


Really is the best answer.  Each one to there they own and all that bollocks  :happy2: I have got a K04 stage 3 (stage 3 being a K03 to a K04) AXX powered Gti (340+bhp at a guess, and manual) my car is to me, wow,  but i also own a 2011 vrs skoda 1.4tsi DSG 7 speed.  Simple, a DSG is AMAZING, but manual in MY golf. Perfect  :drinking:
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2012, 04:53:53 am »
Quote from: Tamiyoman on February 20, 2012, 10:20:16 pm
Quote from: Mk5 GTian on February 20, 2012, 10:12:22 pm
Quote from: Rhino on February 20, 2012, 10:04:10 pm
after watching that video above im liking the DSG even more. (still saving for a gti)


I've had my manual for over 6 months now, and it's brilliant. You have so much more control over changes and can adjust your driving to suit the conditions. Steve Sutcliffe did a test of DSG v Manual in the Golf R, and his 3 times in the DSG were identical, whereas his times in the manual were quite varied, showing that there is a lot more skill involved and room for driver error/excellence. The DSG is just too clinical and uninvolving for me.

3 times the same is consistent in DSG, manual its down to how you feel on the day  :happy2: for me DSG is better economy, lower C02, quicker accelaration altho slower top speed by 1mph (for the once each year you get to use it  :P), Manual are for "Drivers" (Read control feaks stuck in the past), DSG is the future  :evilgrin:.


Had both like both, woudl have either, but currently liking DSG for ease........................  :drinking:

Awaiting being shot down...............  :popcornsoda:

I quite like having total control over my car!
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2012, 10:28:52 am »
Yup I was kidding, just throwin fuel on the fire, I like both but currently have DSG.
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Re: Manual or DSG
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2012, 12:54:12 pm »
feel more connected with the car with manual transmission, like your a part of it
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