Intake porn..

[bacillus]

what does the GruppeM intake look like??? 

[chungster]

 

[RedRobin]

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GruppeM looks like a carbonfibre python curled up under your bonnet! They do a lot work for BMW. Even I think it's overpriced!



^ Does this give you any further ideas, Jonny?

[bacillus]

RR I think your pic shows a hybrid intake made up of the GruppeM with a shortened Neuspeed intake.

[tony_danza]

I think Bacillus is right, that's a hybrid - The GruppeM is just a carbon airbox off the standard sytem.

There's a lot of people say the OEM system is acually quite effective, the kind of people who don't sell intakes... Maybe not so much as you start to go into big power, but certainly capable enough with a decent filter.

Jonny, that intake is nigh on carbon boobies - I've a fun sized Mars bar for it!!!

[RedRobin]

There's a lot of people say the OEM system is actually quite effective, the kind of people who don't sell intakes... Maybe not so much as you start to go into big power, but certainly capable enough with a decent filter.

....Well, The Red Temptress (VWR's 300R demo GTI) does pretty well on stock. Though I'm not currently up to date on what she's running.

[tony_danza]

 I was looking around a lot of the VWR cars at Oulton and I noticed nearly all of the were running an OEM airbox with maybe a crude intake scoop at best - but then, they're all restricted to power output, so do they need the benefit?

I'm not convinced all the ones on the market actually offer any benefit, it takes a lot of thought and intelligent design to achieve something effective, and that is often too cost prohibitive to make it salable... who'd spunk that kind of money on the GruppeM one without absolute, independant proof it was worth the money?

[RedRobin]

^^^^
Which is why a pretty looking CF Carbonio and a decent panel filter such as ITG, is not to be frowned upon.

Btw, SnailMail left here today First Class to you with something black and shiny.

[Hurdy]

MMMMMMM......carbon fibre python....never thought I'd see those words together in a sentence


Jonny, that intake looks rather goddam sexy

[jonnyc]

MMMMMMM......carbon fibre python....never thought I'd see those words together in a sentence


Jonny, that intake looks rather goddam sexy

Haha..

Forgot to mention, the whole thing weights less than 2kg! 

[Hurdy]

MMMMMMM......carbon fibre python....never thought I'd see those words together in a sentence


Jonny, that intake looks rather goddam sexy

Haha..

Forgot to mention, the whole thing weights less than 2kg! 

What does a stock intake weigh? Including the filter?

[jonnyc]

MMMMMMM......carbon fibre python....never thought I'd see those words together in a sentence


Jonny, that intake looks rather goddam sexy

Haha..

Forgot to mention, the whole thing weights less than 2kg! 

What does a stock intake weigh? Including the filter?

Not sure actually, ill have to weight that for a comparison..

[cmdrfire]

Stock intake is fine with a proper free-flow filter up to around 300bhp if we're honest, though above 250bhp and perhaps with a bigger turbo you're running into trouble.
Let's all of us be honest here, the only reason we buy an intake is for the looks 


Computational fluid dynamics ftw, I sincerely doubt any of the aftermarket manufacturers have done much modelling work on their intake designs and it's all based on general principles :)

[RedRobin]

Let's all of us be honest here, the only reason we buy an intake is for the looks 

....And a liitle bit of extra sound (with some).

[luca]

Never been a fan of aftermarket  intakes as nobody has the same sort of time and money to r+d as VW. I believe that aftermarket intakes can work if given enough time and logs are done on road and dyno. Performance wise aftermarket ones should work better but vw need to look at other things when developing the filter such as engine warm up time etc.