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Offline Rich

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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2009, 11:48:40 am »
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I can't honestly say about Audi leather.

However,

The good news is.

Porsche now have i think 51% shares in VW which makes them have control in what goes on - i'm assuming the leather in Porsche will be same as VW now  :happy2:

I know this for sure, the DSG transmission in the MK6 is the same as in a porsche ( triptronic ) - the gear change is phenomenal.


Does anyone know of the spray or smelly stuff VW put in the car when you buy the car new or 2nd hand... It makes the car smell new, really nice smell.

Where can i get this stuff from ?
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2009, 12:45:22 pm »
Quote from: Richi on May 04, 2009, 11:48:40 am

Porsche now have i think 51% shares in VW which makes them have control in what goes on - i'm assuming the leather in Porsche will be same as VW now  :happy2:


....I don't think so! The different individual brands within the whole corporate group are autonomous to a significant degree.

Quote from: Richi on May 04, 2009, 11:48:40 am

I know this for sure, the DSG transmission in the MK6 is the same as in a porsche ( triptronic ) - the gear change is phenomenal.


....Er!? The gear shift may indeed be phenomenal but Porsche's Tiptronic transmission has now been replaced by what they call PDK (Porsche-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe) and whereas PDK follows the same principles of operation as DSG it is not identical to the DSG/S-tronic as you appear to suggest/state.

Quote from: Richi on May 04, 2009, 11:48:40 am

Does anyone know of the spray or smelly stuff VW put in the car when you buy the car new or 2nd hand... It makes the car smell new, really nice smell.

Where can i get this stuff from ?


....Sounds like you're hooked on sniffing this stuff! :evilgrin:
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2009, 07:35:06 pm »
RedRobin ...  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: at the last bit.


Yerrr smellls gorrrgusss  :grin: :grin: :grin:


Well, Porsche do have control over VW   ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7693219.stm )

Quote from there "In its announcement on Sunday, Porsche reiterated its intention to increase its stake in VW above 50% by the end of the year. "

The VW Dealer Manager was telling me how they are using the triptronic in the Mk6 or something alike ( he did say it was porsche technology in a VW )

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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2009, 08:01:28 pm »
^^^^
Yes, I'm not disputing Porsche's stake or control in VW but only that such factors don't mean that VW's will have identical Porsche gearboxes.

I'd take what any VW salesman says with a pinch of salt, including a good mate of mine who is one!
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2009, 08:12:09 pm »
Ha, i like that expression  :happy2:


He also said, when the Golf mk5 came out, no one liked it and there was hardly any sales.

Until.... the GTi came out.. People came to see the flagship.. had a test drive... loved it... but said, can't afford it but i'll have a standard car mk5 being part of the family. :smiley: :happy2:


I can see the Golf mk6 sales booming... i'm already seeing a lot on the road ( not keen on the rear  :scared: )

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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2009, 08:32:16 pm »
Porsche need 75% of vw to start controlling things.  This is due to some weird german law that they are trying
to get overturned.
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2009, 08:41:24 pm »
Quote from: deccae on May 04, 2009, 08:32:16 pm

Porsche need 75% of vw to start controlling things.  This is due to some weird german law that they are trying
to get overturned.


....And even when/if Porsche do gain that control, it does not mean that gearboxes etc will be common to the various very different brands which constitute VW and the VAG group.

Just as leathers used won't be common to all. Aren't Bentley part of VAG? And do Bentley cars have these premature aging problems?
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2009, 10:26:55 pm »
I assume Bentley cars wont get used as much hence the less wear ?
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2009, 08:01:19 am »
Just for information, I work for a German engineering company, and one of my colleagues family lives in a small village in Bavaria. There are 2 special farms there that supply cow skins to both the VW Group (for Bentleys) and BMW (for Rolls Royce). These farms are very tightly controlled. NO barbed wire is allowed anywhere on the farms (as this might mark the hides), and the cows are kept in special fields without hedges or trees to rub up against. It seems that the inspectors (yes they are inspected 3 times a year) are very keen on making sure that the hides are perfect.

AFAIK, both VW, BMW and Aston Martin use a similar set or farms over Germany, Scandinavia and Austria.

Somehow, I can't see this level of quality control going into a 23K car, no matters who makes it !
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2009, 07:19:19 pm »
So whats the best stuff to use to keep the leather nice and fresh?
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2009, 07:24:49 pm »
My drivers seat in the Ed30 had to be replaced at 2months old due to the bolster's wearing and lasted well until a month ago and it has started again :jumping: :fighting:  This is a car that gets used only at weekend and regulary treated to Autoglym leather cleaner and fed aswell!!
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2009, 07:26:41 pm »
^^^Yeah mine was starting pretty quick.

How short are you toast?
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2009, 07:32:23 pm »
I'm 6ft 2ins  or there abouts  :laugh:  Why do ask? :confused:
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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2009, 09:54:20 pm »
Quote from: Toast on May 05, 2009, 07:32:23 pm
I'm 6ft 2ins  or there abouts  :laugh:  Why do ask? :confused:

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Re: Premature Ageing!
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2009, 10:02:26 pm »
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