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Sorry, I'm still confused.
« on: March 10, 2012, 09:10:18 pm »
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So far I've just used Megs Ultimate wash and wax, followed by blue Turtle wax polish, and no sealant.  :ashamed:
 
I want to start doing things properly, so I'm ordering Purple Haze Pro for my Shadow blue, and Jetseal 109 sealant.

What should I use as polish in combo with these, and should I glaze before waxing, and if so, what glaze product should I use?

Thanks,

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Re: Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 09:16:17 pm »
Do you have a machine polisher, or are you doing it by hand. You don't need to Polish that often.

Poor boys black hole is an excellent glaze, and pretty cheap. This gets applied before the wax or sealant stage.

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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 10:32:27 pm »
I'm hand-polishing.

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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 11:04:23 pm »
I've used Auto Glym SRP followed by a coating of Collinite 476s to seal it in. It's not the best combo but it's kept mine looking ok.

Looking forward to seeing the results you get on your shadow blue with the Purple Haze :party:
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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 11:20:24 pm »
I've used Auto Glym SRP followed by a coating of Collinite 476s to seal it in. It's not the best combo but it's kept mine looking ok.

Looking forward to seeing the results you get on your shadow blue with the Purple Haze :party:

Just need to know which polish to use after the Purple Haze. I'll do some before and afters. A few others seem to have got on well with it, so let's see!

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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2012, 11:26:29 pm »
I've used Auto Glym SRP followed by a coating of Collinite 476s to seal it in. It's not the best combo but it's kept mine looking ok.

Looking forward to seeing the results you get on your shadow blue with the Purple Haze :party:

Just need to know which polish to use after the Purple Haze. I'll do some before and afters. A few others seem to have got on well with it, so let's see!

Correct me if I'm wrong...I'm not that clued up with dodo juice stuff but isn't purple haze a wax?
If its a wax don't polish after the wax...the wax is a protection and the polish will remove the wax

Polish and prep 1st wax/sealant last

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Re: Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2012, 01:34:41 am »
As said above, Purple Haze is a wax, therefore should be your last step.

Auto Glym Super Resin Polish is good for hand application, and gives good results. It contains fillers that will slightly mask swirl marks. You would then use a glaze after polishing, then seal with your purple haze.

Having a good wax doesn't necessarily mean you will have a nice and shiny car. The end result is all to do with the preparation you do beforehand I.e discontaminating the paint either through claying, deironising and detarring. If you put in the effort in the early stages, you will reap the rewards when you've applied the wax.

Check out the detailing world forum for information.

I plan on doing a paint correction on mine when the decent weather comes round. Mine is still wearing collinite 845 that I applied in October to see me through the winter. Can't wait to get stuck in to it!

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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2012, 05:41:20 am »
As above, AG SRP is a good hand polish. It has fillers as well as abrasives. For this fact alone, I'd avoid glazes. SRP is a bit of an all-in-one.

Remember that sealants don't bond well to waxes so put the sealant down first.

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Sealant
Wax

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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2012, 06:08:35 am »
I just use sealants now, waxing is too much hard work and i get a better finish and gloss with polymer sealants.

Im using Zaino Z8 Grande Finale as a top up sealant and quick detailer now.  :happy2:
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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2012, 07:12:40 am »
Brilliant thanks guys. I did say I was still confused!  :confused:

So this is my new understanding of stages and proposed products.

Stage                                                                                   Product

Wash                                                                                Megs shampoo only with no wax or snow foam
Clay Bar to remove paint contaminants                            Valet pro yellow fine clay
Polish for shine and to fill light scratches                          Autoglym SRP new formula (no white dust)
Sealant                                                                             Jetseal 109
Wax                                                                                  Dodo Juice Purple Haze Pro

I'd really appreciate your comments, whether a thumbs up or more suggestions.

Thanks again fellas.  :happy2:
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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2012, 09:40:47 am »
Always use a sealant before a wax as said. Valet Pro yellow fine clay would suit.

Order should be.......

Wheels and arches up first
Bodywork wash
De-tar
Clay
Sheet water over the vehicle with open ended hose to aid drying
Dry the vehicle
Polish with your SRP
Use your jet seal 109
Then apply your purple haze
Dress your tyres etc and clean the glass

This is just a rough guide, I'd get your sell a decent detail spray for after washes. As in my eyes anymore than 2 layers of wax is just a waste. Then re-apply your wax once you noticed its durability is starting to fail.


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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2012, 09:51:02 am »
+1 for detarring prior to claying

+1 for glass, plastic trims, rubber trim, and tyres. Small details that cannot be overlooked.

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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2012, 10:18:09 am »
+1 for detarring prior to claying

+1 for glass, plastic trims, rubber trim, and tyres. Small details that cannot be overlooked.

All makes a huge difference.


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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2012, 12:10:48 pm »

Thanks a lot  again guys.

How do you de-tar, and what do you use to do it?

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Re: Sorry, I'm still confused.
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2012, 12:40:55 pm »

Thanks a lot  again guys.

How do you de-tar, and what do you use to do it?

De-tar using Autosmart Tardis avaiable here http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/autosmart-tardis.html or cheaper through an Autosmart rep.

As it's your first time using it, I'd spray it on your car one panel at a time, let it dwell, but not dry out, then wipe over with a microfibre. Rinse each panel down to ensure there is no product left on your car. Then you can follow the remaining steps outlined above.