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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2010, 11:20:31 am »
Hi Deacon

Just cant wait for my CW rooco to arrive in 21 days, 12 Hours and 30 minutes.

It cant come quick enough as Im spending a fortune with idle hands waiting for it to happen!

May I ask why did you go Eibach instead of the H&R?

Nice remap btw

Hey,

I know what you mean the wait is def. a killer!

I went for the Eibach's rather than the H&R's for a couple of reasons - I had both Eibach and H&R springs on a couple of previous cars and always preferred the Eibach's ride, I intend to change the exhaust and had read a few people who had the H&R's and changed the exhaust had problems with the exhaust bak box catching on speed bumps - I live in speed bump central so that put me off and finally, the place I wanted to fit the springs could supply either Eibach or KW whereas I would have had to order the H&R's from Germany (as they are silly expensive here for some reason for the 'roc) so that was the final thing that swung me to the Eibach's.

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2010, 04:55:42 pm »
get them wheels on so i can see what they look like on mine  :party:

loving the map on that car so much nicer than stock 2.0tsi

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (update 01/06/11)
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2011, 11:15:14 pm »
Haven't updated this for a while and as I'm one of the four Scirocco's Chungster has lined up to join you on the stand at Inters I thought I should do a little update.

Changed the gear knob for a golf ball one (I know some people wont like this as it's not a golf but I liked the feel of it more than the stock knob and I also liked the fact it was a little higher than the stock knob)








I also fitted the metal pedal set and a metal footrest cover:-




Quick picture of a little interior 'fun' mod I did.




A picture of the prototype ITG 1.4 intake kit fitted to my car at GTi Inters 2010:-



Graphs for the prototype ITGinduction kit (nicked from Wigit - Thank you!)






Pictures of the final production version of the ITG intake:-













Excuse the pictures and the state of the car's interior!

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2011, 11:18:06 pm »
Sorry, bit long winded this one!

I've had my 'roc two and a half years now and so decided to get the geometry don a few months ago for a number of reasons but mainly because it was lowered a year and a bit ago, I slid on the ice and hit a kerb damaging the one wheel and also because i wanted to see if the handling could be improved.

I went to Center Gravity in Atherstone Warwickshire (http://www.centergravity.co.uk/) as I had heard good things about them and had spoken to Chris Franklin there when I owned a previous car and had been impressed by what he had to say. They are a Porsche specialist but also work on other makes. The first thing to say for anyone who fancies making use of their services is that they are extremely busy – I originally phoned at the end of January hoping to get booked in for the third week in February but couldn’t actually get in until April!!!

The service that’s provided isn’t your standard alignment check – this is a full geometry set up to suit your needs.

There are a number of parts to the process which Chris goes through – I’ve outlined the key points but only briefly – this is a four hour process!

The first thing I noticed on arrival was the four Porsches and the Ferrari sat outside. It was truly a drool fest with my favourite being split between a 993 C2S or the 996 GT2. Actually it was the GT2 – pure porn!

Inside Center Gravity there is a customer area with a laptop with internet access, free drinks, biscuits, magazines, comfy chairs, etc with a large viewing window into the main workshop. Chris greeted me and explained about the facilities and the process and we had a general talk about cars then it was on with the process.

Firstly Chris takes the car on a predetermined test drive routs with you as passenger and describes the various tests he is performing as he goes while also assessing the car for any mechanical issues. He was fairly happy with how my car was which was nice to know and didn’t expect the geometry measurement to show any major issues.

Back at the workshop part two of the process involves a thorough check of the car’s tyres for damage, pressure checked (and corrected for temperature!), correct size tyres on, tread depth, etc. All was good on my car except it was noted that the wear on the drivers rear was a little strange wearing more on the inside edge and progressively getting less worn to the outside.

Next step was loading the car with ballast to simulate a full tank of fuel and fluids. (If the car is more track rather than road orientated driver ballast is also added!)

Next was a check of the ride height and then the wheels were checked using the ridiculously sophisticated equipment and cameras attached to each wheel to ensure they are not buckled or out of round in any way. Again I was happy to see that all was good at this stage too.

Next up was the actual geometry measurements using the official VW figures as the baseline.

On the attached image the Initial Measurement is where the car was. The Target Data is the VW figures and the Final Measurement is where Chris got the car to.


 
One of the issues that showed up from the initial measurement was that the rear toe was out with the rear left having positive toe while the right had negative. Chris asked if I had noticed any difference in terms of steering response when turning left or right and I had – the car seemed happier to turn one way than the other. Chris explained that this toe issue would explain this and the slightly odd wear on the rear right as the wheels were effectively like this // rather than / \ or || or \ / as would usually be expected. The other issues were to do with the amount of negative camber front and rear but more importantly the cross camber differences.

As you can see in the Final Measurements Chris managed to address these issues although he was limited in the camber adjustment by what could be physically altered on the car. The image bellow gives a clearer view of the final adjustments made and you can see just how much closer the measurements are to each other now on the left and the right of the car both front and rear.
 


The next step was another test drive again on a predetermined route where Chris drives the first part (just to ensure that there are no wayward handling characteristics introduced) before handing over to you for the rest. All I can say is wow. The difference from what seem like such minute changes is amazing. The turn in is now much sharper, the car resists understeer better and the rear end is now more mobile and willing to help out. The difference that was there before in turning is now gone and the car responds equally whichever direction. The car is a lot pointier now, the steering feels less wooden and the response is much improved. The car is also a lot more playful and fun to drive. Chris had some suggestions for some further tweeks that could be made to improve things even further which I will take up in due course.



One of the things Chris points out right at the start is that if after the second test drive you are not happy with the changes that have been made the car will go back into the workshop for further changes until you are happy.

In all the process took four hours! Chris is an absolute perfectionist and one of the only people I’ve ever felt that my car was in truly good hands with. It was a pleasure seeing Chris work and his knowledge and passion for his subject is just awe inspiring. Chris was also very happy for me to be in the work shop, to be asking him questions and to take a few pictures a couple of which I’ve attached.



If you enjoy driving your car I would absolutely recommend a full geometry set up – the difference is astounding!

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 01/06/11)
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2011, 11:20:35 pm »
I had a new exhaust made and fitted recently. It was custom made by someone who's made exhausts for previous cars and family members cars so I knew it would be a good job. I went with a custom exhaust for a few reasons; I only really wanted the rear section rather than a full catback and most rear boxes you can buy require cutting the stock sytem which I didn't want to do and I also don't like the way that the rear silencer box hangs down so far on a lot of the off the shelf aftermarket stuff - much further than on the stock system. The solution for me then was a custom exhaust which does away with the rear silencer box altogether!

Anyway some pictures:-

This is a picture of the underside of the car with the stock sytem in place


Now a few pictures trying to show the new system and absence of rear silencer box!






Finally a picture of the rear of the car showing the tailpipes (twin 75mm)


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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 01/06/11)
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2011, 11:25:49 pm »
Last update!

Just before I had the geometry done I had the wheels refurbed in matt black by Rimstock as I fancied a colour change and also had some damage from hitting the kerb due to ice. I initially went to A1 wheels in Wolverhampton as they are quite local to me but was happier with the dealings I had with Rimstock (who were also cheaper but had a slower turn around on the wheels).

Some pictures with the matt black wheels but I have to apologise as they aren't great - matt black against a white car is no fun to photograph!













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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 01/06/11)
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2011, 10:46:49 am »
Some very tasteful and well executed modifications to a lovely car there.

Out of interest, how much did Rim Stock charge please?  Also, how much was the alignment?  I'm keen to get my Edition 30 set up 'properly' somewhere.  There's a place in Tipton with the very top alignment machine, but they don't know how to get the best out of it.
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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 01/06/11)
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2011, 10:55:10 am »

Splitter is off the car at VW, will take a tape measure and get propper measurements mate  :happy2:

Great write up on geometry, something im wanting to get done too

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 01/06/11)
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2011, 08:39:54 pm »
Some very tasteful and well executed modifications to a lovely car there.

Out of interest, how much did Rim Stock charge please?  Also, how much was the alignment?  I'm keen to get my Edition 30 set up 'properly' somewhere.  There's a place in Tipton with the very top alignment machine, but they don't know how to get the best out of it.

Thanks for the kind words!

The refurb was £248.06 including VAT which included the removal and refitting of the tyres, balancing, valves, loan wheels etc. I'd totally recommend Rimstock for the refurb and John Blades is a great bloke to deal with (even took me on a mini factory tour while I was there!)

The alignment was £238.80 including VAT. I know it sounds like a lot bit Chris Franklin is gifted! Of all the mods I've done to my car I reckon this may well have been the best as the car drives soooo much nicer post alignment. Definitely recommended although you'll probably have to book several months in advance Chris is that busy!

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 01/06/11)
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2011, 08:41:37 pm »

Splitter is off the car at VW, will take a tape measure and get propper measurements mate  :happy2:

Great write up on geometry, something im wanting to get done too

Thanks fella - much appreciated!  :happy2:

Having the geometry done has definitely been one of my favourite mods! Totally recommended

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 01/06/11)
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2011, 08:42:10 pm »
NICE PICS, WHATS THE DRIVE LIKE??

Really, really good!

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 01/06/11)
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2011, 08:43:27 pm »
Sorry one last post (multiple quoting and my phone don't mix well!)

Any chance this could be moved to build threads please mods?

Thanks,

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Re: Scirocco owner saying hello (updated 25/03/12)
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2012, 02:17:20 pm »
Finally managed to get a few pictures with my new summer wheels on (many thanks to wigit for selling them to me!):-











Wheels are VWR wheels in 18x8"