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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2009, 09:37:00 pm »

makes we wonder who made mine. All of mine were swapped under warranty a year ago??


....Better that they are all the same rather than mixed, imo.


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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2009, 09:42:38 pm »
Did you actually check the wheel before it was sent off, I.e could it have always been a Ronal ?

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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2009, 05:25:07 am »
What company did you send the wheel off to? When I had my last Golf, I sent the Monza IIs off to Pristine and they said that to keep time scales to a minimum they try and keep a stock of alloys in so they can just recieve the damaged ones, inspect them and if all is okay they will return the already refurbished stock wheels. This was for a full set mind you and they didn't have enough stock of them when I sent mine away about 2 years or so ago so actually refurbed my supplied wheels.
Maybe this is what the refurbishers did to you and inadvertantly sent you a different spec wheel. Have you spoken to them about it?
Also the reason the finish on the paint is different on the Ronal could be that it has already been refurbished and the standard isn't quite as high as an OE factory finish.

I'm sure if you speak to them they could explain.


Also, just for fellow anoraks out there, Ronal make the Monza alloys on the Polo GTI too. I thank you  :wink:
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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2009, 09:10:05 am »
....

Reading this thread makes me even more glad that I decided to powdercoat my original BBS Monza's and not refurb at Pristine etc. When I visited Pristine I wasn't very impressed by their lacklustre attitude, though they do have a very good reputation.


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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2009, 09:37:23 am »
A 2kg heavier wheel becomes more like 8kg once it's spinning.

I would NOT want 1 only on the car, you need the same stuff on the same axle.
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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2009, 09:48:18 am »
A 2kg heavier wheel becomes more like 8kg once it's spinning.

I would NOT want 1 only on the car, you need the same stuff on the same axle.


....Exactly!! It's the same as it is for tyres.

This is my point - I think it's actually potentially unsafe and irresponsible for any wheel supplier/refurber to supply different wheels without also giving very clear information.

If it's happened to you, and you care, then do something about it! Don't just moan about it on a car forum - Write to VW UK for a start.


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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2009, 12:41:01 pm »
Doesnt sound right this....

As TC said, i had these wheels changed over at Leicester VW some time last year (November ish) and although i diddnt look at the back of the wheels to see who made them (i still ttough the BBS made them all) i and very competant in checking wheels for faults / blemished etc as this is what i do for a living.  in all the time i had them i never noticed any difference on any of the wheels.

To me they have made an error and supplied you with someone else wheel.

I would be straight on the phone asking for your wheel back  :mad:
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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2009, 10:31:56 am »
makes we wonder who made mine. All of mine were swapped under warranty a year ago??

I can't say i've noticed a difference if they are different.

Remember and differences in finish will more than likely be down to the refurb.

I'll be interested to see if they weigh the same

I've just checked this morning and can confirm my wheels are still all bbs versions:)

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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2009, 07:12:04 pm »

The Ronal's are 1.9KG heavier than the BBS's (With tyres) so for argument sake 2.0KG

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Luke or anyone. Could you tell me where the information was obtained about the weight differences please, I have never found anywhere that gives you the weight of either types.  :happy2:

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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2009, 07:22:57 pm »
The weight was obtained using the scales in my house, obviously they are not calibrated or anything but regardless of that it's not going to throw it out hugely. I think the bbs were 22.1kg and the ronal 24 kg dead. This was just comparing the two so it may well vary with every batch.

But on the plus side I get my wheel back on Monday  :smiley:



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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2009, 07:36:08 pm »
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Even if your house scales aren't professionally calibrated, Luke, the important point is that the Ronals are definitely heavier and approximately 2 Kg heavier.

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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2009, 07:43:43 pm »
The weight was obtained using the scales in my house, onviosly there not calibrated or anything but regardless of that it's not going to throw it out hugely. I think the bbs was 22.1kg and the ronal 24 dead. This was just comparing the two so it may well vary with every batch.

But on the plus side I get my wheel back on Monday  :smiley:



Luke

Thanks for that Luke   :happy2:

So can someone confirm for me that i have converted this correctly  :driver:

BBS monza  KG = 22.1 converted to pounds = 48.72 pounds

Ronal monza  KG = 24  converted to pounds = 52.91 pounds

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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2009, 07:45:43 pm »
The weight was obtained using the scales in my house, onviosly there not calibrated or anything but regardless of that it's not going to throw it out hugely. I think the bbs was 22.1kg and the ronal 24 dead. This was just comparing the two so it may well vary with every batch.

But on the plus side I get my wheel back on Monday  :smiley:



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Thanks for that Luke   :happy2:

So can someone confirm for me that i have converted this correctly  :driver:

BBS monza  KG = 22.1 converted to pounds = 48.72 pounds

Ronal monza  KG = 24  converted to pounds = 52.91 pounds

Spot on matey  :happy2:
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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2009, 08:09:00 pm »
The weight was obtained using the scales in my house, onviosly there not calibrated or anything but regardless of that it's not going to throw it out hugely. I think the bbs was 22.1kg and the ronal 24 dead. This was just comparing the two so it may well vary with every batch.

But on the plus side I get my wheel back on Monday  :smiley:



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Thanks for that Luke   :happy2:

So can someone confirm for me that i have converted this correctly  :driver:

BBS monza  KG = 22.1 converted to pounds = 48.72 pounds

Ronal monza  KG = 24  converted to pounds = 52.91 pounds

Spot on matey  :happy2:

Cheers Luke i have been after the weight of a Monza for a while. I am expecting some new rims soon and wanted to know what they weighed in comparison to my Monza's
My new rims weigh 24.5 pounds, which if you are correct is over half the weight less, so that should make a great difference in the feel and handling.  :jumpmove:

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Re: Major Monza II info required
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2009, 08:12:35 pm »
I wonder if that includes tyres.  Monza 2's a renowned for being a light wheel?