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Price has got nothing to do with it, Nickyboy - Nobody is asking you to part with your money! We're discussing and enjoying a very good car - The Golf R. You've illustrated very well what your own taste is in cars - Have you driven or even been driven in either the Evo X or Nissan? There's more to it than just speed and value for money. "Madness" for you to spend your money on a Golf R but not for others who have the funds available.