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Audi s3
« on: April 07, 2012, 11:50:39 am »
my mates brother is selling his 58plate s3 5dr....was wondering if the s3 engine is the same as the ed30?Eg turbo,internals etc etc....might be tempted


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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 11:52:52 am »
internals are stronger, and the S3 has a bigger intercooler (tho with 58 plate it'll probably be a facelift and hence have plastic end tanks).

same turbo, injectors and things.
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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 04:41:59 pm »
ED30 and S3 engine internals (and Cupra), are the same.  Injectors are different though.
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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 07:39:25 pm »
ED30 and S3 engine internals (and Cupra), are the same.  Injectors are different though.

No, both have the same injectors.
 iirc one of the S3 cams has a different etka part number to the ed30.
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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 07:43:30 pm »
As bacillus says its all the same bar the cams.

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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2012, 07:56:07 pm »
Cheers,was thinking of snapping it up & selling the ed30 but if the only difference is that it's 4wd,I won't bother


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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2012, 08:44:18 pm »
Ok, injectors could be the same. Like I said, same engine though, S3 is not the stronger engine.  
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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2012, 01:07:48 am »
Exactly the same apart from S3's have a different inlet cam...
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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2012, 09:19:33 am »
According to this link  http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,119.msg1107.html#msg1107

No, no, no, NOOOOO.           

The Edition 30 engine does NOT have stronger internals.  It has different internals, and only some.  The durability of the Ed30 engine is exactly the same as the standard GTI engine.

Only the Audi S3 engine has stronger, reinforced internals, along with a stronger cylinder block/crankcase. 

Yes, compression ratios are different, but that is for a specific reason, and nowt to do with any durability allowances.
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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2012, 08:55:34 pm »

S3 BHZ
Cylinder head complete 06F103063P or 06F103063PX
Piston complete 06D107066K
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102D
Camshaft intake 06F109101G

Seat Cupra BWJ
Cylinder head complete 06F103063P or 06F103063PX
Piston complete 06D107066K
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102D
Camshaft intake 06F109101G

Edition 30 BYD
Cylinder head complete 06F103063PX
Piston complete 06D107066K
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102D
Camshaft intake 06F109101G



Normal GTi BWA
Cylinder head complete 06F103063NX
Piston complete 06D107066C
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102B
Camshaft intake 06F109101B

Normal GTi AXX
Cylinder head complete 06F103063NX
Piston complete 06D107066D
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102B
Camshaft intake 06F109101B

BHZ 06F198401
BYD 06F198401
BWJ 06F198401
BWA 06D198401C
AXX 06D198401B

Crankshaft
BHZ 06A105021AR
BYD 06A105021AR
BWJ 06A105021AR
BWA 06A105021S
AXX 06A105021S


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Re: Audi s3
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2012, 08:27:05 am »
^ that looks similar to the list I showed to TT about 6 years ago when we had this discussion.
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