Whats the Milltek hype all about??

[joseleeds]

Looking into changing my exhaust, from the the amount of great reviews, i headed to milltek first, only to find i wouldn't be getting much change from a £1000 for a turbo back resonated system (for a gt tdi 140).

As this cuts into my savings substantially i carried on my search to find Longlife Exhausts, and they quoted me £399, fitted, for the exact same piece system. I'm no pro on welding or exhausts etc but surely the fact they offer you a lifetime guarantee protects you against anything that might go wrong.

Anybody shed any light on this....

[subzero]

i worked for a welding firm and to be honest alot of the cheaper ones look very similar weld quality wise, as for performance i have no idea

[RedRobin]

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With Milltek it's not hype but established reputation based on user experience.

I don't believe that the Longlife system will be exactly the same as a Milltek but just cheaper!

[Shabba168]

Milltek are made for specific vehicles to get the best performance gain.

I Believe Longlife use universal boxes which have set noise levels. ok if you need a new exhaust but if you want a first time fit and enjoy go Milltek

[RedRobin]

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Yes, Milltek exhaust systems are definitely designed for performance and they use specific cars to develop their systems for. I kinda assumed that all exhaust manufacturers did that unless they were just boy-racer noise makers.

It's advisable to go to an approved Milltek fitter. While I was at JKM the other day, someone brought in an Audi RS6 MTM Avant (quite a car) with a badly fitted Milltek which needed refitting as Milltek had asked JKM to do so the owner wouldn't have to drive all the way north to Derby.

Milltek make performance exhausts which blow your mind, not your ears. In my neck of the woods the Police are testing roadside equipment to measure and stop the boy-racer levels of noise. The plan is to introduce this equipment to other forces throughout England.



^ I'm a Milltek fanboy and proud of it!

[Tamiyoman]

Or go BCS and get a better system or blueflame for less money and you dont pay £200 for the priveledge of a Milltek badge then  

Sorry Robin could not resist  

P.S. im a mainstream hater 

[RedRobin]

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Blueflame is still going is it? 

The BCS on Tsfi_Mike's Cupra sounded good yesterday.

[RedRobin]

Or go BCS and get a better system or blueflame for less money and you dont pay £200 for the priveledge of a Milltek badge then   

Sorry Robin could not resist 

P.S. im a mainstream hater 

....Now play fair!  You know there's far more to a Milltek system than just a badge. And I'm not knocking BCS am I? - In fact I posted the contrary re Mike's Cupra.

[Shorty]

BCS. Better quality for less money. Do it. 

[joseleeds]

Well i really don't want it loud, thats why i was opting for the resonated approach. Are you suggesting even with a resonated system a cheaper exhaust will be really loud?

From looking at the details of the kits i presume the differences lie solely in the back box then? As there really isn't much to the rest of the system (when going for turbo back)

Maybe buy a milltek back box and have the rest of the kit made by longlife?!

Im not against any of these brands, or even paying the money, if its worth it. I just wanted to see why people were so happy to part with £££ for their milltek system. As well as get a better idea about the whole exhaust thing, as you may have guessed, this is all pretty new to me.

Joe

[RedRobin]

Well i really don't want it loud, thats why i was opting for the resonated approach. Are you suggesting even with a resonated system a cheaper exhaust will be really loud?

From looking at the details of the kits i presume the differences lie solely in the back box then? As there really isn't much to the rest of the system (when going for turbo back)

Maybe buy a milltek back box and have the rest of the kit made by longlife?

....No no no no! Don't mix it! I know some folks do but you are not getting the best you can and you won't get any manufacturer's aftersales support. There's all sorts of considerations such as back pressure etc.

The big question is what do you want an aftermarket exhaust to do for you? Sound or Performance?

Performance gains are only significant if you also remap.

Apart from Milltek, BCS, APR, and Blueflame(?), Scorpion(?) are the main contenders for performance with sound but not OTT sound for road use.

[Tamiyoman]

Well i really don't want it loud, thats why i was opting for the resonated approach. Are you suggesting even with a resonated system a cheaper exhaust will be really loud?

From looking at the details of the kits i presume the differences lie solely in the back box then? As there really isn't much to the rest of the system (when going for turbo back)

Maybe buy a milltek back box and have the rest of the kit made by longlife?!

Im not against any of these brands, or even paying the money, if its worth it. I just wanted to see why people were so happy to part with £££ for their milltek system. As well as get a better idea about the whole exhaust thing, as you may have guessed, this is all pretty new to me.

Joe

BCS systems are not loud, I HATE chavvy loud boy racer exhausts, to me the BCS system was nice n quiet pootling around and then sporty when giving it some (although I can only comment on the BCS "Valvetech" exhaust as thats the only one I have heard), similar money to Milltek but pictures on the forums show you how good a quality it is and facetube if your friend for hearing exhausts  

TBF the Milltek was the only "Quality" exhaust available for a while so it got a following, personally speaking.... meh (Sorry Robin  )

[RedRobin]

TBF the Milltek was the only "Quality" exhaust available for a while so it got a following, personally speaking.... meh (Sorry Robin  )

....And Milltek will still be going strong when some of the others have disappeared. Do you know how many decades Milltek have been offering exhaust systems? Think Austin Healey 3000! Are you old enough to know what car that is? 

As I have already posted, there are others to consider as well as Milltek but I would stay away from mixing and from generic Longlife types.

[joseleeds]

Ok well my understanding of back pressure isn't great. I was under the impression that if Milltek run a 2.75" pipe from turbo to back box, with no CAT then it shouldn't be to hard to recreate the same back pressure with the same 2.75" pipe, this time made by, say, Longlife (to to fit with the OP)

What difference would the milltek made pipes make?

I am after 100% performance, but would prefer it if people didn't hear me coming a mile before i'm already there (no diesel jokes   )

[Tamiyoman]

TBF the Milltek was the only "Quality" exhaust available for a while so it got a following, personally speaking.... meh (Sorry Robin  )

....And Milltek will still be going strong when some of the others have disappeared. Do you know how many decades Milltek have been offering exhaust systems? Think Austin Healey 3000! Are you old enough to know what car that is? 

I am sure they will be going strong and its a good exhaust, but others have caught up (if not bettered their quality) and are similar (if not lower) priced and yes I know what a Healey 3000 is, im pretty sure my dad had one of those in his youth 

As I have already posted, there are others to consider as well as Milltek but I would stay away from mixing and from generic Longlife types.

Agreed 100% dont mix n match, buy either APR RSC, Milltek or BCS (priced in descending order )