Whats the Milltek hype all about??

[Tamiyoman]

Ok well my understanding of back pressure isn't great. I was under the impression that if Milltek run a 2.75" pipe from turbo to back box, with no CAT then it shouldn't be to hard to recreate the same back pressure with the same 2.75" pipe, this time made by, say, Longlife (to to fit with the OP)

What difference would the milltek made pipes make?

I am after 100% performance, but would prefer it if people didn't hear me coming a mile before i'm already there (no diesel jokes   )

For performance and quiet I would consider either Milltek or BCS (Millteks are inherantly quiet and BCS do 3 versions depends on how quiet you want it  )

[RedRobin]

I am after 100% performance, but would prefer it if people didn't hear me coming a mile before i'm already there (no diesel jokes   )

....All 3 of the systems which both Tamiyoman and I are recommending are sophisticated in their sound: A gentle burble when idling and only louder when on full throttle.

If you were to get the Milltek Resonated version it's not a lot louder than OEM by virtue of having a silencer box in the centre pipe but I appreciate you may have budget limitations.

APR is quiet on idle or pootling around town but really raucous when on the throttle - Which can be really nice depending what you want.

[biffobear]

if you have identical exhast pipe diameters, with similar bends, the only difference in performance will be how the muffler is packed. what you are paying for in more expensive exhausts is better quality steel, and welds.

[Jimbo_h]

First proper post on here (woo ), I've got the Scorpion/STR system (non-res) and I gotta say its very nice, cost about £400ish . Engine feels a lot smoother and only a slight increase in noise (not boy racery at all) if u wanted it OEM just get the res one. STR are keen to ensure all buyers of these ltd edition systems are happy and I'm pretty sure their after care would be top notch (i had someone from the factory come along to make sure my installation went to plan). I just wanted something a bit diff' and am happy with what I got

[81lly]

Looking into changing my exhaust, from the the amount of great reviews, i headed to milltek first, only to find i wouldn't be getting much change from a £1000 for a turbo back resonated system (for a gt tdi 140).

As this cuts into my savings substantially i carried on my search to find Longlife Exhausts, and they quoted me £399, fitted, for the exact same piece system. I'm no pro on welding or exhausts etc but surely the fact they offer you a lifetime guarantee protects you against anything that might go wrong.

Anybody shed any light on this....

Don't go for a resonated system on gt tdi! A non res is what you want  

[joseleeds]

OK, well i definitely have a better understanding of the options available now...only problem is i'm back to square one!!....i want an exhaust i can't afford  

Either way, i really appreciate peoples time and effort in answering my questions  

Cheers

Joe

[joseleeds]

Looking into changing my exhaust, from the the amount of great reviews, i headed to milltek first, only to find i wouldn't be getting much change from a £1000 for a turbo back resonated system (for a gt tdi 140).

As this cuts into my savings substantially i carried on my search to find Longlife Exhausts, and they quoted me £399, fitted, for the exact same piece system. I'm no pro on welding or exhausts etc but surely the fact they offer you a lifetime guarantee protects you against anything that might go wrong.

Anybody shed any light on this....

Do go for a resonated system on gt tdi! A non res is what you want   

Why is this mate...do you have videos of gt tdi with a non res?

[Saintsteve]

Well i really don't want it loud, thats why i was opting for the resonated approach. Are you suggesting even with a resonated system a cheaper exhaust will be really loud?

From looking at the details of the kits i presume the differences lie solely in the back box then? As there really isn't much to the rest of the system (when going for turbo back)

Maybe buy a milltek back box and have the rest of the kit made by longlife?!

Im not against any of these brands, or even paying the money, if its worth it. I just wanted to see why people were so happy to part with £££ for their milltek system. As well as get a better idea about the whole exhaust thing, as you may have guessed, this is all pretty new to me.

Joe

BCS systems are not loud, I HATE chavvy loud boy racer exhausts, to me the BCS system was nice n quiet pootling around and then sporty when giving it some (although I can only comment on the BCS "Valvetech" exhaust as thats the only one I have heard), similar money to Milltek but pictures on the forums show you how good a quality it is and facetube if your friend for hearing exhausts  

TBF the Milltek was the only "Quality" exhaust available for a while so it got a following, personally speaking.... meh (Sorry Robin  )

What warranty do BCS offer?.... Is it lifetime like milltek?  

I was lucky enough to buy a 2nd hand Downpipe, and even then, milltek repaired it free of charge. says volumes for there customer care and after sales, they didn't have to assist, but they chose to, and to this day, it still wouldn't consider any other manufacturer purely for the fact they have looked after me well as a valued customer.

[Tamiyoman]

Well i really don't want it loud, thats why i was opting for the resonated approach. Are you suggesting even with a resonated system a cheaper exhaust will be really loud?

From looking at the details of the kits i presume the differences lie solely in the back box then? As there really isn't much to the rest of the system (when going for turbo back)

Maybe buy a milltek back box and have the rest of the kit made by longlife?!

Im not against any of these brands, or even paying the money, if its worth it. I just wanted to see why people were so happy to part with £££ for their milltek system. As well as get a better idea about the whole exhaust thing, as you may have guessed, this is all pretty new to me.

Joe

BCS systems are not loud, I HATE chavvy loud boy racer exhausts, to me the BCS system was nice n quiet pootling around and then sporty when giving it some (although I can only comment on the BCS "Valvetech" exhaust as thats the only one I have heard), similar money to Milltek but pictures on the forums show you how good a quality it is and facetube if your friend for hearing exhausts  

TBF the Milltek was the only "Quality" exhaust available for a while so it got a following, personally speaking.... meh (Sorry Robin  )

What warranty do BCS offer?.... Is it lifetime like milltek? 

Thats a question for BCS i think, plus aint Milltek's "Lifetime" Guarantee only for the period you own the car? (for me that would be 4-5 years) or do they still warranty it 3 owners and 10 years down the line?

[Gene Hunt]

Another Milltek fan here,had one fitted to my last GTI. But the thing i dont like about them now is the horrible bolt on tailpipes they have started using, put me right off getting one for my ED 30.

[Saintsteve]

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Well i really don't want it loud, thats why i was opting for the resonated approach. Are you suggesting even with a resonated system a cheaper exhaust will be really loud?

From looking at the details of the kits i presume the differences lie solely in the back box then? As there really isn't much to the rest of the system (when going for turbo back)

Maybe buy a milltek back box and have the rest of the kit made by longlife?!

Im not against any of these brands, or even paying the money, if its worth it. I just wanted to see why people were so happy to part with £££ for their milltek system. As well as get a better idea about the whole exhaust thing, as you may have guessed, this is all pretty new to me.

Joe

BCS systems are not loud, I HATE chavvy loud boy racer exhausts, to me the BCS system was nice n quiet pootling around and then sporty when giving it some (although I can only comment on the BCS "Valvetech" exhaust as thats the only one I have heard), similar money to Milltek but pictures on the forums show you how good a quality it is and facetube if your friend for hearing exhausts  

TBF the Milltek was the only "Quality" exhaust available for a while so it got a following, personally speaking.... meh (Sorry Robin  )

What warranty do BCS offer?.... Is it lifetime like milltek?  

Thats a question for BCS i think, plus aint Milltek's "Lifetime" Guarantee only for the period you own the car? (for me that would be 4-5 years) or do they still warranty it 3 owners and 10 years down the line?

Well in my case no, because I bought it 2nd hand. they have also fixed Alex Perkins Cracked Downpipe after a 2nd hand purchase, from this forum. also like me. Milltek recognised that the cracks were a manufacturing issue, and we fixed FOC, and we both we not the original purchasers. being a member of this site played a huge part into Millteks willingness to resolve. bad press is never good for a reputable company like Milltek. I highly rate them from my experiences and those of others.

[81lly]

Looking into changing my exhaust, from the the amount of great reviews, i headed to milltek first, only to find i wouldn't be getting much change from a £1000 for a turbo back resonated system (for a gt tdi 140).

As this cuts into my savings substantially i carried on my search to find Longlife Exhausts, and they quoted me £399, fitted, for the exact same piece system. I'm no pro on welding or exhausts etc but surely the fact they offer you a lifetime guarantee protects you against anything that might go wrong.

Anybody shed any light on this....

Do go for a resonated system on gt tdi! A non res is what you want  

Why is this mate...do you have videos of gt tdi with a non res?

I had a non res on my tdi and it was perfect, I was told a resonated system won't really make a difference on a diesel. I'll post the link to the video of mine gimme a sec

[four!]

Go for a decent quality system that won't break the bank. The Milltek probably wont have been specifically developed for your car as even on their web site somewhere it says they have released an adaptor pipe which allows fitment of the gti/ed30 system  

If it's a 140 tdi then the THS downpipe is around £60 cheaper, includes adaptors and looks good quality. This will fit to a cat back system

I'm sure someone on here has fitted one recently.

Good luck

[Andy]

i have thw milly on mine turbo back non res--when you rev the car you can hear the exhaust a little but in a good way ..cruising on the motor way its quite as the standard one--mine was £700 fitted at awesome

[81lly]

I know it's short but it's the only video I have of mine.