4wd conversion info

[JPC]

Robin do you have to spam every thread with your photos? 

George... Robin is part of the furniture here, like it or not! haha! Ive seen his mug more times than I've seen my own! ;)

[vRSAlex]

I still think that a front wheel drive GTi/Leon would be quicker round a track than an S3.  Look at why all the Leon Supacopa's are front wheel drive rather than 4.

Its a fairly simple conversion that I looked into a few years back.  The subframe just swaps over and its quite simple to wire the haldex up too.

[RedRobin]

I still think that a front wheel drive GTi/Leon would be quicker round a track than an S3.  Look at why all the Leon Supacopa's are front wheel drive rather than 4.

Its a fairly simple conversion that I looked into a few years back.  The subframe just swaps over and its quite simple to wire the haldex up too.

....So does that mean that what we are talking about here (most of the time! ) is a conversion to the Haldex version of 4WD? In other words it's only 4WD when the ABS etc system needs it.

[Hedge]

I still think that a front wheel drive GTi/Leon would be quicker round a track than an S3.  Look at why all the Leon Supacopa's are front wheel drive rather than 4.

Its a fairly simple conversion that I looked into a few years back.  The subframe just swaps over and its quite simple to wire the haldex up too.

....So does that mean that what we are talking about here (most of the time! ) is a conversion to the Haldex version of 4WD? In other words it's only 4WD when the ABS etc system needs it.

What?  

It becomes 4WD once the fronts start to slip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex_Traction

[RedRobin]

....So does that mean that what we are talking about here (most of the time! ) is a conversion to the Haldex version of 4WD? In other words it's only 4WD when the ABS etc system needs it.

What? 

It becomes 4WD once the fronts start to slip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex_Traction

....That's what I meant - I just didn't know which system it was so I wrote "etc". I think I probably should have written ESP or TC.

Thanks for the wiki link - An opportunity to learn more 

[Deako]

Best plan is to start with a 4mo chassis and drop the lump in that. To retro fit a 4mo system on a fwd base car is a massive amount of work, as you need to chop the arse off one and join it to the other.

Not quite. Its not a Mk2 Golf we are talking about here. There is plenty of room in the trans tunnell. Its tight, but just requires the rear subframe swap and electrics, different rear suspension etc. Oh and maybe fuel tank changes and also spare wheel well. But still cheaper if you have invested in a car already than swapping the entire shell.

[danishmkvgti]

I still think that a front wheel drive GTi/Leon would be quicker round a track than an S3.  Look at why all the Leon Supacopa's are front wheel drive rather than 4.

Its a fairly simple conversion that I looked into a few years back.  The subframe just swaps over and its quite simple to wire the haldex up too.

I follow you on the supercopa's theory, but thing is the are limited in bhp and torque due to regulations, us streetgeeks aren't 

[vRSAlex]

I still think that a front wheel drive GTi/Leon would be quicker round a track than an S3.  Look at why all the Leon Supacopa's are front wheel drive rather than 4.

Its a fairly simple conversion that I looked into a few years back.  The subframe just swaps over and its quite simple to wire the haldex up too.

I follow you on the supercopa's theory, but thing is the are limited in bhp and torque due to regulations, us streetgeeks aren't 

The Supacopa that ran the Barcellona 24 hour that came 1st in the FWD class and around 3rd overall ran an APR 2871 turbo kit!   

[danishmkvgti]

I still think that a front wheel drive GTi/Leon would be quicker round a track than an S3.  Look at why all the Leon Supacopa's are front wheel drive rather than 4.

Its a fairly simple conversion that I looked into a few years back.  The subframe just swaps over and its quite simple to wire the haldex up too.

I follow you on the supercopa's theory, but thing is the are limited in bhp and torque due to regulations, us streetgeeks aren't 

The Supacopa that ran the Barcellona 24 hour that came 1st in the FWD class and around 3rd overall ran an APR 2871 turbo kit!   

That's below 400 bhp right We might consider passing 500, but again i agree that a fwd can be quicker and definatly safer driving on the limit, which is the reason i haven't converted to 4wd,,,,,,,,, yet 

[RedRobin]

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Am I right in thinking that when a 4WD hits its limit, which is beyond that of a FWD, and lets go it lets go big time? It seems that way from the results of accidents I've known about involving Audi quattro's.

[JPC]

Robin do you have to spam every thread with your photos? 

George... Robin is part of the furniture here, like it or not! haha! Ive seen his mug more times than I've seen my own! ;) it wouldn't be the same without him! 

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[RedRobin]

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Jay, is that edit because of also the sometimes dumb questions I ask?   

[danishmkvgti]

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Am I right in thinking that when a 4WD hits its limit, which is beyond that of a FWD, and lets go it lets go big time? It seems that way from the results of accidents I've known about involving Audi quattro's.

That's right and the reason for me not having a 4wd yet, as the border between doing great and wrecked the car is borderline thin with 4wd, as opposed to the "safe" slip of the front end which can be solved by letting go of the gas  

[JPC]

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Jay, is that edit because of also the sometimes dumb questions I ask?   

It was edited because i read it back and thought it might be interpreted negatively or positively. I wanted to go for the latter ;)

[RedRobin]

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Jay, is that edit because of also the sometimes dumb questions I ask?   

It was edited because i read it back and thought it might be interpreted negatively or positively. I wanted to go for the latter ;)

....I love you too, Jay! 

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