4wd conversion info

[geordie56]

There is loads of posts on the Internet covering the aspect of and actually carrying out the 4wd conversion. It is simple to do, the parts can be picked up from lots of areas at reasonable prices and is something different to do. However i have looked into this in the past and kept umming and ahhhing over it, but decided against purely for a couple of reasons already stated, one being when they let go they WILL let go big style and it will be very serious, two you have a lot more fun in a 2wd, three being the fact mistakes and oversteer and under steer are a lot easier to correct in fwd and my main one is it is IMO the same as Alex states quicker than 4wd due to all of the above and weight issues even stripped at least on a dry circuit. On a wet circuit ok may be different, and this is track work were talking about here before anyone jumps down my throat and goes on about the strip and 0-60 times etc etc... I'm talking about track not the strip and gunning it in a straight line. this is just my personal opinion and everyone is entitled to a different one.

[Obese]

Its all personally what you want from the car, im planning on going gt3071/gt3076 at some point in the next year or so and really want to make the most of the extra power.

is there any info out there on wiring in the haldex as the mechanical and fabrication side of things i will be able to breeze just the wiring side of things i dont like.

[George]

For all those haldex haters, you can get a haldex controller that switches the 4wd to permanent.

[gazbutS3]

having done 4 trackdays in the S3 I feel the only place its let down is a slight reluctance on the intial turn in, once turned the grip is very good. I find it pretty forgiving and predictable. Once on the power if the front looses grip, it sends some power to the rear which seems to help turn the car then the power is transferred back to the front to sort of pull you out of the corner, something like that

they struggle on the brakes too because of the extra lard

I've had a couple of modded GTI's so have driven both although not on the track in the GTI, but of lot of the opinions are from people who probably haven't driven an S3/Golf R on track

the TTRS runs a very similar system and they are pretty capable

[gazbutS3]

For all those haldex haters, you can get a haldex controller that switches the 4wd to permanent.

don't think you can 

[George]

I'm sure you could, I've seen R32 turbos with them?

[Hedge]

I think the TTRS runs a Gen 4 Haldex and correct me if I'm wrong but the S3 and R32 run earlier, less capable systems.

My understanding is that the Gen 4 is more predictive in it's moving of power.

[George]

I stand corrected

http://hpamotorsports.com/haldex.htm

[gazbutS3]

I think the TTRS runs a Gen 4 Haldex and correct me if I'm wrong but the S3 and R32 run earlier, less capable systems.

My understanding is that the Gen 4 is more predictive in it's moving of power.

The 8P1 S3 and R32 run Gen 2, the later S3 and TTRS run Gen 4 IIRC, the later systems react more quickly making them more predictable.

But I have never found mine anything like unpredictable on the track, the exact opposte in fact, it lets you get away with murder 

[geordie56]

Gaz I'm not being biased just because I own a rocco pal that's obviously only fwd.it's obviously also the whole way my car is setup with regards all the extensive mods, cage etc which helps a great deal with cornering and grips levels. I have owned and tracked quite a few my previous cars being a mk5 r32 and a s3, the s3 is obviously the better of the pair due to the heavy lump. However the s3 just isn't as nimble as the track rocco. I know it's different as its pretty much race spec, I would say put a standard s3 and a standard rocco together and I'd fancy the s3 obviously, but when we're on these type of forum people aren't interested in standard just the mods etc if you know where I'm coming from.

[gazbutS3]

Gaz I'm not being biased just because I own a rocco pal that's obviously only fwd.it's obviously also the whole way my car is setup with regards all the extensive mods, cage etc which helps a great deal with cornering and grips levels. I have owned and tracked quite a few my previous cars being a mk5 r32 and a s3, the s3 is obviously the better of the pair due to the heavy lump. However the s3 just isn't as nimble as the track rocco. I know it's different as its pretty much race spec, I would say put a standard s3 and a standard rocco together and I'd fancy the s3 obviously, but when we're on these type of forum people aren't interested in standard just the mods etc if you know where I'm coming from.

totally agree with everything you have said there pal, the spec you of your rocco is a different leaque all together. I wasn' trying to say the S3 is better than the GTI or rocco, I just don't agree with some of the other things that were being said about the haldex set-up, I think alot of peoples opinions are based on hear say not experience, as yours are. On the same note I'm sure a box fresh S3 wouldn't be as happy on the track as my mildly modded car, apart from the brakes 

[geordie56]

I'd say yours is a little more than mildly modded!  you've done arbs, coilies, brakes, and lots of engine goodies haven't you?

[gazbutS3]

I'd say yours is a little more than mildly modded!  you've done arbs, coilies, brakes, and lots of engine goodies haven't you?

busted  , as I've said my point was the opinions made not from experience, at the end of the day the haldex set-up only adds 75kg by all accounts, the weight of a short stocky mancunian.

[Hedge]

I'd say yours is a little more than mildly modded!  you've done arbs, coilies, brakes, and lots of engine goodies haven't you?

busted  , as I've said my point was the opinions made not from experience, at the end of the day the haldex set-up only adds 75kg by all accounts, the weight of a short stocky mancunian.

Or a leg for us normal folk. 

[RedRobin]

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Audi offer a Sports Differential to their quattro system on the S4 and that certainly contributes greatly to the handling and importantly its feel. But is this optional extra available for the smaller S3 platform?