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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2012, 07:48:55 pm »

Some are sticklers for same tyres front and rear but not me. If it works for you why not?


....Doesn't your ESP kick in more often when you mix tyres?

Mine did Robin. I had Vred Setantras on the back and Pirelli P Zero Rosso assymetrics on the back, and the ESP was always flickering on. Since I've had the Pirelli's all round, I see the ESP a lot less.

I would have changed all four but my rears are like new and my fronts have a few mm so I thought I'd just get two. Didn't think it would matter. What do I know  :ashamed:
I know how you feel Iain, I couldn't justify buying 4 new tyres when 2 still had tread left, but having 4 all the same with about 5k on the front and brand new on the back has made a massive difference, compared to the 6 months of mixed tyres.

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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2012, 08:38:45 pm »

Some are sticklers for same tyres front and rear but not me. If it works for you why not?


....Doesn't your ESP kick in more often when you mix tyres?


Mine did Robin. I had Vred Setantras on the back and Pirelli P Zero Rosso assymetrics on the front, and the ESP was always flickering on. Since I've had the Pirelli's all round, I see the ESP a lot less.


....I had a particularly spirited drive today on a local B-road and noticed several times that the ESP kicked in just for a very short split second each time. I think it was because I still have Dunlop Maxx TT's on the front and (new) Eagle F1 v2's on the back.


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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2012, 09:36:02 pm »

....I had a particularly spirited drive today on a local B-road and noticed several times that the ESP kicked in just for a very short split second each time. I think it was because I still have Dunlop Maxx TT's on the front and (new) Eagle F1 v2's on the back.

Ditto with F1 Aysm on the front, Asym2 on the rear. Very noticeable if pressing on and surprisingly evident even at moderate speeds. I found I had to turn the ESP off, as the intervention of ESP was very unsettling. Matching asym2 front and rear and no problem at all.

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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2012, 09:37:41 pm »
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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2012, 11:14:48 pm »

Ditto with F1 Aysm on the front, Asym2 on the rear. Very noticeable if pressing on and surprisingly evident even at moderate speeds. I found I had to turn the ESP off, as the intervention of ESP was very unsettling. Matching asym2 front and rear and no problem at all.


....That strongly suggests that there is quite a difference apart from just tread pattern between the F1 Asym1's and Asym2's.

Believe me, you would not want to drive the B coast road I was on without ESP! I just ignore and drive through the ESP hiccups - It seems to work on my setup.


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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2012, 11:29:20 pm »

Ditto with F1 Aysm on the front, Asym2 on the rear. Very noticeable if pressing on and surprisingly evident even at moderate speeds. I found I had to turn the ESP off, as the intervention of ESP was very unsettling. Matching asym2 front and rear and no problem at all.


....That strongly suggests that there is quite a difference apart from just tread pattern between the F1 Asym1's and Asym2's.

Believe me, you would not want to drive the B coast road I was on without ESP! I just ignore and drive through the ESP hiccups - It seems to work on my setup.

The ESP in my situation was spitting its dummy out for no good reason at times - only moderate cornering loads caused it to kick up a fuss. I forgot to turn it off driving on a lovely twisty road in proximity to the N-ring, and the first time it kicked in was when trail braking into a corner. Most unnecessary and resulted in a quick press of the ESP button to restore enjoyment to the drive - I was making progress, but not being reckless. There wasn't a hint of noise from the tyres, it just seems the slip angles of the asym1 vs asym2 are sufficiently different to confuse the ESP.


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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2012, 07:57:17 am »
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I notice that Sticky Vicky is advising us to put new tyres on the back of a rear wheel drive car too. Yes, Vicky, I'll do anything you want  :love:  :notworthy:

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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2012, 12:30:18 pm »
I just bought two Eagle F1 2's off Camskill to replace my noisy and not-so-great Potenza's... ordered them yesterday at 12.30pm and that's them just arrived  :pomppomp:
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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2012, 01:31:34 pm »


^ Definitely regarded as one of the very best road tyres for the Mk5 GTI. We need to realise that although generic in design, different tyres can suit various cars to different degrees.


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Re: The eternal conundrum! Which tyres to plump for.. arrrghhhhh
« Reply #54 on: May 08, 2012, 08:49:19 pm »
I don't reckon there is much differene between putting them on the front or rear to me that video looked like she took her foot off the accelerator as soon as it started to understeer and it looked like she kept her foot down and didn't try to do anything with the steering wheel to keep the back in check obviously to prove a point