5n0035730 Retro fit problems (possibly wiring) **RESOLVED**

[Squeeguk]

That is odd as I got mine, installed it and it all worked perfectly. Then again I used the 7P6. I originally ordered the 5N0, but returned it after I was told that it would be unsuitable, can't recall why, but there is a thread on here. Could it be the actual module which is giving you the issues and not the wiring? If you can send it back and get the 7P6.

[jason_rmh]

I've tried 2 different 5n0 modules. Same result.
Did you activate phone preparation on the radio in vcds? Im not sure if it is required or not

[Squeeguk]

I would definitely give a 7p6 module a try. The 5N0 I believe is not for cars with a red MFD, whereas the 7P6 will work, but just not show up on the MFD, you do need a RNS510 or MFSW to operate it though.

I can't recall exactly what I coded on the radio. I can check for you tomorrow if you like, but it will only be in the afternoon.

[jason_rmh]

I would definitely give a 7p6 module a try. The 5N0 I believe is not for cars with a red MFD, whereas the 7P6 will work, but just not show up on the MFD, you do need a RNS510 or MFSW to operate it though.

I can't recall exactly what I coded on the radio. I can check for you tomorrow if you like, but it will only be in the afternoon.

5no works on red mfd. I have rcd510 and mfsw. It is meant to show sms on display too.
It is showing but not connecting. I have fault codes for mic and antenna.

[Squeeguk]

That is interesting as I was told that the 5N0 will not work. Even on carsystems website it says:

ONLY FOR CARS WITH WHITE OR MULTICOLOR MFA+  /  DIS

NOT for cars with red MFA / DIS
NOT for cars without multifunction steering wheel

Whereas for the 7P6 it says:

Can be installed in cars :

without MFA / DIS
with red MFA / DIS - than can be ONLY operate the module by a touch screen  RNS510 / RCD510
without multifunction steering wheel

The new version is 5K0 which replaces the 7P6

Just saying that perhaps the issues you are having are because of this. Perhaps there is some sort of compatibility issue.

[jason_rmh]

the 5n0 a, b, and c revisions work with red, revisions d upwards are white only.
There's something not right though.
Really annoying me now... :-\

[Seany]

Hi Jason,

Im having similar problems with my bluetooth unit.

I have an RNS 510 running fw2760

I did have module 5k0 035 730 A, but for some reason it stopped displaying on my RNS, then stopped controlling the phone.

I now have module 5N0 035 730 A which displays on my red display, and only connects when it bloody wants to.  Every 200 times it connects ONCE !!!

I have tried various coding, different phones etc. but no joy.

It did connect yesterday, but now wont...........again.  And for some reason I could only see the first 2 phonebook contacts.

Could I ask what your coding is??

I have tried the recommended coding ...........  0020041 & 0020055

I even cleared the existing bluetooth devices by typng 1 in channel 7 as the new value.

But no good :(

JamboV6 has been helping me out on this as im a bit of a newbie with the coding.


If I come across anything will keep you posted.

[Seany]

Sorry,

In addition to your coding..........  can you tell me what options you have.

Im starting to think its a Firmware issue, having treid 2 different modules, different coding and different phones.

I have the RNS-510, FW2760, 5N0 035 730 A, No cradle, VW MIC, no overhead buttons, no mfsw


Cheers,

Sean

[jason_rmh]

Sorry,

In addition to your coding..........  can you tell me what options you have.

Im starting to think its a Firmware issue, having treid 2 different modules, different coding and different phones.

I have the RNS-510, FW2760, 5N0 035 730 A, No cradle, VW MIC, no overhead buttons, no mfsw


Cheers,

Sean

Hi sean,
That's a good point, I have the 5n0 035 730 c. I've also tried a b module.
I have mfsw, no overhead buttons but rcd510, VW mic.
Mine shows on mfd but will not even find the phone and there for cannot initiate pairing.
I found 0021141 works best (least amount of vcds errors).
I cannot get rid of antenna and mic errors.

Do you have the mic wired fro voice command?
Do you get any errors?
Have you updated your phone recently, that also may have affected compatibility.
I'm at my wits end with this.

I'm currently waiting for a response from car systems to see if they can help.
Jas

[Seany]

Sorry,

In addition to your coding..........  can you tell me what options you have.

Im starting to think its a Firmware issue, having treid 2 different modules, different coding and different phones.

I have the RNS-510, FW2760, 5N0 035 730 A, No cradle, VW MIC, no overhead buttons, no mfsw


Cheers,

Sean

Hi sean,
That's a good point, I have the 5n0 035 730 c. I've also tried a b module.
I have mfsw, no overhead buttons but rcd510, VW mic.
Mine shows on mfd but will not even find the phone and there for cannot initiate pairing.
I found 0021141 works best (least amount of vcds errors).
I cannot get rid of antenna and mic errors.

Do you have the mic wired fro voice command?
Do you get any errors?
Have you updated your phone recently, that also may have affected compatibility.
I'm at my wits end with this.

I'm currently waiting for a response from car systems to see if they can help.
Jas

.......

Me too mate.

I wired my Mic direct to the RNS, cant remember how, but even she pretends she cant hear me.

I end up calling her (RNS) all sorts.  Then she works.

I haven't updated the phone, only the RNS from modified FW so my Reverse Cam would work to the normal FW version 2760....  A few weeks later and things started to stop working on the bluetooth !! :( :( :(

The message I always get while pairing.......................

Connect phone...... (Then phone shows on RNS Screen) whilst on the MFD its says' Intialising Phone'.... then it fails !!!

Always the intialising phone stops the connection.

Its only worked about 10 times since I bought the 5N0 module !!!!


Sean

[Seany]

Forgot to mention.....  no errors with VCDS that Im aware of...... phone is a Galaxy (1) soon to be the new (3)  :)

[mortygttdi]

Jason the RCD510 doesn't have voice control which is why on your sticker the pins are blanked out you need to wire it so that the mic goes straight to the BT module

Darren

[jason_rmh]

Jason the RCD510 doesn't have voice control which is why on your sticker the pins are blanked out you need to wire it so that the mic goes straight to the BT module

Darren

Seriously! That makes sense as I don't get an error when wired to the bt module.
Still get antenna fault though.
Even Ross tech couldn't tell me that! I'll give it a go today.
Thanks Darren.

Sean, have you tried reverting your fw to see if it cures your problem?

[Seany]

Not yet, thinking of upgrading to the newer firmware shortly, but only when I have exhausted every other possibile option !!

           

[jason_rmh]

Forgot to mention.....  no errors with VCDS that Im aware of...... phone is a Galaxy (1) soon to be the new (3)  :)

Sean, check that Galaxy 3 is RSAP compatible as I think Samsung removed RSAP from later models, worth looking into.