PCV Valve

[56OctyVRS]

Thanks Octy 

Yeah, for £30ish it's gotta be done!

Case of prevention better than cure 

(are you in Lincolnshire btw?)

Im in Mansfield which isnt far from Lincoln

[RedRobin]

I think I'm going to fit the latest PCV revision rather than my forge catch tank.

....If you already have a Forge catch tank system why would you do that?

The latest PCV revision obviously is a great improvement but is it better than have a good catch tank system?

[Dan648v]

When mapping there car recently didn't someone find a fault with the forge or bsh catch can set up? Can't find the article now

[RedRobin]

When mapping there car recently didn't someone find a fault with the forge or bsh catch can set up? Can't find the article now

....Well, I've had first BSH and now Forge catch tanks (much prefer the Forge) and my car gets regularly dyno'd and logged on the road by Jim @ JKM and there have been no related faults. In fact, the catch tank is thought to have contributed beneficially to the very good state of my valve stems etc < Recently inspected at 100,000 miles.

[Dan648v]

How do you find your idle? And how often and how much fluid would you say you drain? I know the forge is alot larger can than the bsh ones.

I've just put a revision N on my car and find it to be alot better built than the one that came off, my idle is better, as for the condition of head internals I couldnt comment

[RedRobin]

How do you find your idle? And how often and how much fluid would you say you drain? I know the forge is alot larger can than the bsh ones.

I've just put a revision N on my car and find it to be alot better built than the one that came off, my idle is better, as for the condition of head internals I couldnt comment

....Depending where you stand/sit, idle is no noisier/quieter or smoother/rougher than before any catch tank was fitted. My car is a 06-build and had its original early revision PCV.

I only drain the fluid when it gets close to the level indicator line (Forge). How often depends mostly on weather temperatures and types of journeys.

More info in my review here:  http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,16343.0.html

Certainly, if I hadn't already got a catch tank system I would consider upgrading my PCV to the latest revision but I can't say that I still wouldn't go for the Forge. I'd need to research the subject more to get a more direct comparison.

[Thor]

....Well, I've had first BSH and now Forge catch tanks (much prefer the Forge) and my car gets regularly dyno'd and logged on the road by Jim @ JKM and there have been no related faults. In fact, the catch tank is thought to have contributed beneficially to the very good state of my valve stems etc < Recently inspected at 100,000 miles.

RR, can you explain why the catch can would be thought to contribute to very good state of valve stems at 100k inspection?  the TFSI is direct injection is it not?  Just trying to learn, not challenge your statement  

I would have thought that using high quality fuels with detergent additives such as those in V power and BP ultimate would have a far great impact on the condition of the valve stems. ??

[RedRobin]

....Well, I've had first BSH and now Forge catch tanks (much prefer the Forge) and my car gets regularly dyno'd and logged on the road by Jim @ JKM and there have been no related faults. In fact, the catch tank is thought to have contributed beneficially to the very good state of my valve stems etc < Recently inspected at 100,000 miles.

RR, can you explain why the catch can would be thought to contribute to very good state of valve stems at 100k inspection?  the TFSI is direct injection is it not?  Just trying to learn, not challenge your statement 

I would have thought that using high quality fuels with detergent additives such as those in V power and BP ultimate would have a far great impact on the condition of the valve stems. ??

....It's explained in my review:  http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,16343.0.html

Note that I wrote "valve stems etc" - I'm repeating what I understood from Jim @ JKM after he dived into my engine to investigate a loss of power when on February's Dyno-Day.

I'm confident that high quality fuels also contribute beneficially in one way or another. I hope this helps explain. 

[Paullie773]

I think I'm going to fit the latest PCV revision rather than my forge catch tank.

....If you already have a Forge catch tank system why would you do that?

The latest PCV revision obviously is a great improvement but is it better than have a good catch tank system?

I think it was because George hadn't fitted his Forge catch can kit yet, Robin. He sold it brand new and unused to me. I am going to fit the Forge however as my car is having an APR HPFP an new cam follower fitted soon, before going Shark Stage 3 and I believe a catch can is a must for more highly tuned cars. The fact that your engine was found to be in such good conditon at 100K miles recently has encouraged me to follow suit. My car only has 17K miles at the moment and I feel that the Forge catch can can only help keep it in good health, along with regular maintenance. Do you find your engine bay more smelly with the Forge fitted, Robin?  xx

[RedRobin]

I think it was because George hadn't fitted his Forge catch can kit yet, Robin. He sold it brand new and unused to me. I am going to fit the Forge however as my car is having an APR HPFP an new cam follower fitted soon, before going Shark Stage 3 and I believe a catch can is a must for more highly tuned cars. The fact that your engine was found to be in such good conditon at 100K miles recently has encouraged me to follow suit. My car only has 17K miles at the moment and I feel that the Forge catch can can only help keep it in good health, along with regular maintenance. Do you find your engine bay more smelly with the Forge fitted, Robin?   xx

....Hi Paullie  

A good move to fit a catch tank system as soon as 17k miles and coinciding with tuning.

Was the Forge one you bought a silver one? - I'll PM you about it soon (after I've watched 'Neighbours'!).

No, because the Forge system doesn't vent to air (illegal for road cars in the UK I think), there are no smells. However, you can smell the gunk when you empty the tank. It's not the sort of fragrance you would want to dab behind your ears before going on a date you wanted to impress! However, if you went on a date with a car enthusiast and dabbed Castrol R behind your ears, the world would be your oyster!! He (me included) would be putty in your fingers!

[Paullie773]

Well I'll be sure not to use the catch can gunk in place of my usual fragrance then,  . It's not the silver one, I bought the brand new black, stealthy one that George had for sale last week. Can't wait to get it fitted! Thanks once again for your infinite wisdom  xx

[RedRobin]

@ Paullie:
Just had a call... Gotta dash n collect my car and visit Shabba at vanworx... Will Pm ya later re Forge can