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Rear Brakes for mk6
« on: April 28, 2012, 10:23:21 pm »

The time has come to change my rear discs as they are pretty worn down now after fitting harder pads and they are noisy under braking,
I have been looking around for some aftermarket ones preferably with Ali bells but cannot find any ??
Don't want to fit standard ones as the hubs start rusting as soon as they are fitted 
Maybe larger calipers and discs, any thoughts on this ?
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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 11:05:55 pm »
Drop DaveB a PM, I am sure he will have some ideas.

The default upgrade is the R32/S3 310mm vented rears but I am not sure how many 2 piece discs are available for this. VWR where meant to be making a replacement disk for these 310mm calipers.

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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 07:27:13 am »
Drop DaveB a PM, I am sure he will have some ideas.

The default upgrade is the R32/S3 310mm vented rears but I am not sure how many 2 piece discs are available for this. VWR where meant to be making a replacement disk for these 310mm calipers.

Thanx Steve for your reply, I will send Dave a PM and see how I get on   :happy2:
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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 09:19:27 am »
You don't need rear brakes, smaller the better.
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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 09:51:38 am »
You don't need rear brakes, smaller the better.

Tony
I am just after some better quality ones really as the oem ones are made of butter and rust as you look at them, that's why I was thinking the alli bells route ? More for quality than performance I think ?
I know the harder pads will wear the standard disc as it has done quite a lot since I fitted them about six months ago, the rears are now goosed after quite a bit of track work.
S3 rears maybe, better quality ?
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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 09:57:18 am »
My OEM rears did 50000 miles and 5 years and didn't look too shabby when they came off.

Have you thought about painting the 'bell' on an OEM disc to stop it corroding?

Having spoken to a chap who prepped mk5s for racing, they actually chopped the rear pads to decrease rear braking force :-)

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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 10:12:18 am »
Rich
Probably better fitting standard pads back in then?  so the pads ware down and not the disc, after a trackday my rear wheels are full of iron filings and the disc surface is pretty scoured, the fronts are just full of brake dust as normal with the vwrs and DS 2500 pads,
Think the rears have Brembo sports pads ? Doesn't feel unbalanced on track tho
Would prefer alli bells instead of getting the hammerite out  :ashamed:  :grin:
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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 11:15:46 am »
I can't imagine anyone will do a 2 piece rear disc in the 286 x 12 size for the gti and if they did they would be insanely expensive for no real performance benefit imo...

I've done all sorts of track days with my oem rear setup and havent yet felt the need to even upgrade to the R32 rears, quick coat of high temp paint on the bells and mine still looked like new after 2 years until they wore out and needed changing anyway  :happy2:

I use 'VHT' brand high temp paint in ali colour or if you fancy satin black then BBQ paint is excellent  :happy2:


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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 12:06:56 pm »
Looks like going back to standard setup and the BBQ paint is coming out  :happy2: :happy2:
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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 12:38:39 pm »
Ive got those brembo HP2000 pads in the rears of mine and they seem  to work great, a little squealing but not too bad

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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2012, 02:13:13 pm »
I upgraded to the S3 rear set-up on the ED30 to redress the balance a little after fitting the TAROX 10 pots up front. It definitely made the car a better balanced car IMHO.  Obviously a heavier set-up than OEM, but I sacrificed this to get the braking balance. :happy2:
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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 05:36:39 pm »
Ive got those brembo HP2000 pads in the rears of mine and they seem  to work great, a little squealing but not too bad

Mine are braking fine but wearing the disc out in no time  :sad1:
I upgraded to the S3 rear set-up on the ED30 to redress the balance a little after fitting the TAROX 10 pots up front. It definitely made the car a better balanced car IMHO.  Obviously a heavier set-up than OEM, but I sacrificed this to get the braking balance. :happy2:

Been having a chat with Dave and I think I will go the S3 route   :happy2:
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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 05:43:53 pm »
Ive got those brembo HP2000 pads in the rears of mine and they seem  to work great, a little squealing but not too bad

Mine are braking fine but wearing the disc out in no time  :sad1:
I upgraded to the S3 rear set-up on the ED30 to redress the balance a little after fitting the TAROX 10 pots up front. It definitely made the car a better balanced car IMHO.  Obviously a heavier set-up than OEM, but I sacrificed this to get the braking balance. :happy2:

Been having a chat with Dave and I think I will go the S3 route   :happy2:

LOL... of course he will get you to buy some, he wants your money  :signLOL:

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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2012, 06:36:05 pm »
Ive got those brembo HP2000 pads in the rears of mine and they seem  to work great, a little squealing but not too bad

Mine are braking fine but wearing the disc out in no time  :sad1:
I upgraded to the S3 rear set-up on the ED30 to redress the balance a little after fitting the TAROX 10 pots up front. It definitely made the car a better balanced car IMHO.  Obviously a heavier set-up than OEM, but I sacrificed this to get the braking balance. :happy2:

Been having a chat with Dave and I think I will go the S3 route   :happy2:

LOL... of course he will get you to buy some, he wants your money  :signLOL:


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Re: Rear Brakes for mk6
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 07:02:42 pm »
To be honest, it depends how you drive, as to what advice is best.

The fastest way to get a FWD around a track is to use as much weight transfer as you can get over the front wheels, so that means the rear brakes are used for control rather than stopping and you run as small and light as you can. You sling all the power to the front to get weight on those wheels, which equals turn-in grip. Once you're confident enough to go in faster on trail braking, using the oversteer that come with it, you'll see why. It's pretty much why French cars are fast. I ran 343mm Alcons and standard rears, pretty much like the VWCup cars run - I never had an issue.

That said, lots of people don't like this kind of setup and want something more 'planted'.. hence the S3 rears. Fair enough, but don't be tempted to run uprated rear pads, as without a brake bias valve you'll never get enough heat into them to use them effectively, OEM are more than adequate.
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