Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...

[sub39h]

... and no, i'm not joking. The act of filesharing copyrighted files is illegal: that is not in dispute. But voilation of my civil liberties is not an acceptable way to deal with the problem. This is the UK, not China. This sets a dangerous precedent for other websites that the government may feel is inappropriate.

Discuss.

[ktlstar]

newgroup ftw, however they said they will be targeting that soon.


Surely people are going to start cancelling there contract with Virgin ?

[keano]

It's illegal dude.

If they continue to ban and prosecute child porn websites, would you class that as impacting your 'civil liberties'?

That's my view on it anyway. Ignorant? Possibly. Do a give a hoot? Nah.  

[sub39h]

newgroup ftw, however they said they will be targeting that soon.


Surely people are going to start cancelling there contract with Virgin ?

Every ISP will be affected eventually. Virgin is just the first to fall. All the other major players will be following suit soon. I'll be looking into which ISPs this doesn't apply to (if any) and boycotting any that block websites. If it applies to all ISPs let's just say I'll be taking measures to ensure my civil liberties remain intact as so far that's not illegal.

It's illegal dude.

If they continue to ban and prosecute child porn websites, would you class that as impacting your 'civil liberties'?

That's my view on it anyway. Ignorant? Possibly. Do a give a hoot? Nah. 

the act of viewing child pornography is illegal. going on Piratebay is not illegal if you don't fileshare copyrighted files.

they are not the same thing. do you not wonder what other websites they'll block in future in the name of the so-called greater good?

[keano]

It encourages illegal activity though I guess. The millions and millions of pounds in tax revenue they will loose out on pretty much warrants the removal in my eyes

[nezquick]

There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream  at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me 

[nezquick]

newgroup ftw, however they said they will be targeting that soon.


Surely people are going to start cancelling there contract with Virgin ?

Every ISP will be affected eventually. Virgin is just the first to fall. All the other major players will be following suit soon. I'll be looking into which ISPs this doesn't apply to (if any) and boycotting any that block websites. If it applies to all ISPs let's just say I'll be taking measures to ensure my civil liberties remain intact as so far that's not illegal.

It's illegal dude.

If they continue to ban and prosecute child porn websites, would you class that as impacting your 'civil liberties'?

That's my view on it anyway. Ignorant? Possibly. Do a give a hoot? Nah. 

the act of viewing child pornography is illegal. going on Piratebay is not illegal if you don't fileshare copyrighted files.

they are not the same thing. do you not wonder what other websites they'll block in future in the name of the so-called greater good?

Forgot to mention that - which is the otherside of the arguement because a lot of copyright free programmes, music, images etc are shared through pirate bay.. so really rather than banning or taking the site out they should just filter the content.. but even then there are always ways to get around such as ip cloaks or masks or the big one proxy sites  so really you'll always be able to get on piratebay - you'll just have to go the long route

[sub39h]

There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream  at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me 

you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.

how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead

[vRS Carl]

They will probably only block this webiste because Robin pollutes it too much with pictures  

[Jussa]

They will probably only block this webiste because Robin pollutes it too much with pictures  

 

[nezquick]

There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream  at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me 

you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.

how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead

the idea is to send out a message - pirate bay will never actually be banned or removed the developers will simply up and leave - buy some more servers in another contry and set up the site again under a different domain and different name. Its the same for any other streaming or downloading site - everything just gets moved around and then within a few days its online again and then it takes another few years to shut it down again - look at megavideo whenever something is reported the link gets broken someone uploads a new link with a different url and then you can stream it again without any problems.

I think its a little extreme to say they will block this site because we drive slightly higher polluting cars - thats just a bit to nazi and wouldn't work because the masses of the gti community would rise and drive to parliment and park on the lawn in protest with everyone revving the engines and getting oil all over the nice green grass... but seriously it wouldn't happen - and ill wager you - if this site is closed down by government or any ISP because our cars pollute then I will eat anything you name bar anything human or sexual 

you only have to look at how much damage particular hacking groups are doing to major government sites and even ISP to realise they don't have full control over content of the internet and it will never be allowed to get to a stage where the most we can look at is government approved websites so i say sit back have a cuppa tea and use a proxy 

[Dp_Ed30]

I wouldn't stress about it. Newsgroups are far better than torrents. Wong be long before the owners change the slightest thing in the URL, move the servers and we will be back in business.

And like others have said there are ways around it you just need to know were to look

[R32UK]

Im looking for some of latest news on groups  can anyone point me in the right direction? 

[Dp_Ed30]

Im looking for some of latest news on groups  can anyone point me in the right direction? 

Google the following.

Gigganews
News hosting
Astra web

Nzbsrus
Newzbin
 

[stealthwolf]

Just like when Napster went down and others rose up eg kazza/limewire/frostwire etc, the same thing will happen.

IMO it's like when the music industry claimed people copying music on cassette tapes would kill the industry. It didn't. Neither will pirating. The people who want to circumvent will do so and will find ways to do it without being detected. They never wanted to pay in the first place so will continue not to do so.