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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2012, 05:04:13 pm »
try www.isohunt.com

I've used loads of torrent sites over the years and they all seem to search the same pool of information so if they shut one down another 10 will pop up in its place and you will still be able to find torrents.

IMO they will NEVER be able to completely stop file sharing. Next to porn, its got to be the biggest thing on the internet right now.

My take on it is... 99% of what I downloads (tv series, films, music) I would never actually go out and buy anyway and if its been on TV IMO its been paid for by the adverts / licence etc. So either I download it for free, or if all these sites were banned and file sharing completely blocked then I still wouldn't spend money on watching / listening. So what are they actually losing??
If its a band or a film I really like then I will still pay on itunes and still go to the cinema so they still get my money.

I've also discovered a lot of new bands via free download that I now pay for their music.

Instead of wasting millions on court cases to try to block these sites the companies should be finding effective ways of sharing the media themselves. Then they can still tag advertising onto its etc...

For instance.. If i know a program is available on 4od I will watch it there and endure the annoying adverts rather than download for free from a torrent site.

If companies want us to stop downloading illegally... then make it available on their own site!
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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2012, 05:04:45 pm »
There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream  :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me  :happy2:

you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.

how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead

Calm down dear !  



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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2012, 05:09:16 pm »

IMO they will NEVER be able to completely stop file sharing. Next to porn, its got to be the biggest thing on the internet right now.


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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2012, 05:19:43 pm »
There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream  :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me  :happy2:

you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.

how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead

Calm down dear !  



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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2012, 05:23:34 pm »
try www.isohunt.com

I've used loads of torrent sites over the years and they all seem to search the same pool of information so if they shut one down another 10 will pop up in its place and you will still be able to find torrents.

IMO they will NEVER be able to completely stop file sharing. Next to porn, its got to be the biggest thing on the internet right now.

My take on it is... 99% of what I downloads (tv series, films, music) I would never actually go out and buy anyway and if its been on TV IMO its been paid for by the adverts / licence etc. So either I download it for free, or if all these sites were banned and file sharing completely blocked then I still wouldn't spend money on watching / listening. So what are they actually losing??
If its a band or a film I really like then I will still pay on itunes and still go to the cinema so they still get my money.

I've also discovered a lot of new bands via free download that I now pay for their music.

Instead of wasting millions on court cases to try to block these sites the companies should be finding effective ways of sharing the media themselves. Then they can still tag advertising onto its etc...

For instance.. If i know a program is available on 4od I will watch it there and endure the annoying adverts rather than download for free from a torrent site.

If companies want us to stop downloading illegally... then make it available on their own site!

yeah i agree with that.. its always good quality on 40d.. Thats one of the reasons why i like spotify -found so many new bands through thay bar the occasional add like you said its hreat and when the adds come on i make a tea. :happy2:

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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2012, 06:54:32 pm »
Such legislation is utterly ineffectual: the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it (or, Information Wants To Be Free).

But yes, this is a gross violation of civil liberties, and the start of a "slippery slope":

1) Piratebay is banned because it links, amongst other things, to illegal materials.
2) Google will also be banned because Google also links, amongst other things, to illegal materials?
3) Wikipedia will also be banned because it has articles about and links to, amongst other things, websites which have been banned because they link to illegal materials?

Step 3) is maybe a bit difficult to imagine, but this is what the SOPA law in the US and the ACTA treaty wish to enact. Step 2) - there seems to be no justification to me that would allow thepiratebay to be blocked on the basis of "links to illegal material" but not Google (apart from Google has more and better lawyers).

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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2012, 07:06:16 pm »
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Hey Neo! Long time since I've read any of your posts -  P!ssing excellence as usual  :happy2:

The other issue is that between what is considered illegal due to morality and illegal because it better suits a government/authority (often based on financial gain considerations) < I hope that makes sense!

This is further complicated by different moral values among different cultures and human societies - What's considered 'wrong' in one culture isn't considered 'wrong' in another.

Bottom line, IMO, is to keep as much freedom as possible and not to let authorities/governments with other agendas to take the internet over.


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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2012, 09:54:18 pm »

IMO they will NEVER be able to completely stop file sharing. Next to porn, its got to be the biggest thing on the internet right now.


....It has been said for years that without porn the internet wouldn't even exist!

about 30% of the www is porn....  years of research has led me to believe this is about right  :rolleye:

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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2012, 11:05:23 pm »
^^^^ 30%.   Novice!!!!

Have stopped downloading movies/music from pirate sites due to the amount of viruses that have got through my firewall.

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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2012, 11:51:46 pm »
^^^^ 30%.   Novice!!!!

Have stopped downloading movies/music from pirate sites due to the amount of viruses that have got through my firewall.



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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2012, 02:04:03 am »
I use most of my newsgroups to download tv episodes when they air in the USA, it's bullsh*t that I have to wait 6months longer than the Americans.

I have found though since owning a HDTV that my piracy has been reduced, the films that were grainy and a bit dark worked on a 28" CRT but throw that up on a 50" plasma and it's a diffrent story.

The simple fact is the Internet has created a ' power to the peopl' mentality were a load of single voices can unite to cause a massive wave, this is the authorities trying to rule with a iron fist.

I say let them do what they want they will never stop us, the annoy group showed that last year

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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2012, 05:37:38 am »
Its just business as normal. Problem, reaction, solution.
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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2012, 08:59:55 am »
There are more sites than just pirate bay, if anything pirate bay is about 60% crap and 40% with a large proportion being viral or spoof downloads good if you do a little digging you'll find some much better sites to download and stream  :wink: at the end of the day its still an offence and the argument is that it is costing companies millions of pound blah blah blah so it is wrong but id still do it for older stuff but brand new films etc are much better in the big screen - its all about the experience and atmosphere for me  :happy2:

you are missing the point. they could have blocked ANY site (which didn't contain illegal content i.e. child porn etc) and it would have garnered the same reaction for me.

how long before they block this website because we drive cars that pollute too much? that's an extreme example of where this path could lead

Calm down dear !  



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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2012, 10:07:50 pm »
Balls.... isohunt seems to be blocked now!
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Re: Blocking Piratebay - this is totally unacceptable...
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2012, 10:18:22 pm »