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Car vs Bike.
« on: May 06, 2012, 07:46:30 pm »
Maybe a daft question but i will try it. What sort of bhp/torque would a 1300kg 2.0tfsi need to have to keep up with a 150bhp bike in a straight line? Cheers, Stevie.

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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 07:56:13 pm »
ok fag pack maths here goes

The Golf is about 1600kg (brake weight for MOT)
bike is say 350kg ish

so to be the same power to weight ratio you would need about 800bhp, but it doesnt work like that, id say you would need 400 to keep up but then you would murder it in the corners as you can go round them almost twice as fast
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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 07:57:07 pm »
Who you racing now :signLOL: if its Bones you know he'll win lol :driver:
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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 08:01:46 pm »
Whats brake wgt?? Inc fluids? I really want to get my s3 on the weigh bridge see how it sits.

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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 08:08:53 pm »
what cc is the bike?

A stage 2 plus cupra can just about keep up with a 500cc

A 650hp porsche still gets beat by a 750cc porsche

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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 08:13:13 pm »
Whats brake wgt?? Inc fluids? I really want to get my s3 on the weigh bridge see how it sits.

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Cheers, Stevie.

when you carry out the brake test on the MOT you get the weight of the car so you can work out the braking force, your S3 is about 1900kg thats almost 2 ton
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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 08:29:29 pm »
Whats brake wgt?? Inc fluids? I really want to get my s3 on the weigh bridge see how it sits.

Toast - A small touring car clip sorts out any KTM.

Cheers, Stevie.

when you carry out the brake test on the MOT you get the weight of the car so you can work out the braking force, your S3 is about 1900kg thats almost 2 ton

A golf is 1600kg and an S3 is 1900kg..... what :confused:

Dont race a bike in a straight line, throw some corners in and you'll have him.

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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 08:31:00 pm »
 :signLOL: So who was it on the bike?!
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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 08:31:09 pm »
All my mates have bikes but we will use the 600RR Honda as example?  My Audi is completely stripped, just two seats. Good to get some answers. Cheers.

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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2012, 08:37:13 pm »
I read this post sat in my Golf listening to music in a dual climate controlled zone whilst looking at the pouring rain streaming outside. Go Bikes
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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2012, 08:47:04 pm »
I did race a KTM super duke with my 350bhp and full interior and he overtook me (in a straight line) as if I had 100bhp. So was just wondering how much is needed to have a real good play with a fairly quick bike.................or even pull out a little on a fairly quick bike.  :happy2:

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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2012, 08:49:15 pm »
Tell the truth you stumbled across that Vespa convoy and wanted a race  :signLOL: :driver:
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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2012, 09:06:30 pm »
My Ed30 is 306bhp, has WALK and coilovers fitted and in a straight line I kept up with my friends bike no problem in 'D' but then started pulling away. His bike is a 1994 Honda VFR750 (120bhp). He's not the best rider either and I'm sure that would be the one of the main factors.

My other friend has a Yamaha R1 (150bhp) and he is a good rider. I wouldn't even attempt to race him as I know it'd beat any of my cars.

To be able to keep up with a 150bhp bike like the R1 I'd guess you'd need to run at least 400bhp at 1300kg to get near it but this is only a guess and I don't really know much about bikes either haha

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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2012, 10:13:41 pm »
Even better, if u have an S3, race the bike in the wet!!!
I did the other day, and even from the lights they shat themselves  :signLOL:
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Re: Car vs Bike.
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2012, 10:19:51 pm »
Whats brake wgt?? Inc fluids? I really want to get my s3 on the weigh bridge see how it sits.

Toast - A small touring car clip sorts out any KTM.

Cheers, Stevie.

when you carry out the brake test on the MOT you get the weight of the car so you can work out the braking force, your S3 is about 1900kg thats almost 2 ton

A golf is 1600kg and an S3 is 1900kg..... what :confused:

Dont race a bike in a straight line, throw some corners in and you'll have him.

i was allowing for the fact it was 4wd so transfer box, rear axel, prop and it was a guess lol
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