Mid range tyre recomendation

[Andy]

Coopers are made by avon, usually last years tread pattern or very similar. Don't get me wrong, budget and mid range tyres have there place. But in my opinion its not on performance cars like golf gti's and r32's etc.

sorry Ben you have it the wrong way round Cooper own Avon
http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/about-avon

[Ben Smith]

My mistake, knew they were part of the same somehow. Most of them are these days. Think they still produce the avons as their premium brand and coopers as their mid range.

[Andy]

Yeah it seems so--am in the same trade as you 

[Ben Smith]

I'm still learning, working for the father inlaw to be since he set up on his own.

[Andy]

I'm still learning, working for the father inlaw to be since he set up on his own.

been doing tyres for 20 years now--thier is more to learn than people thing

[RedRobin]

Coopers are made by avon, usually last years tread pattern or very similar. Don't get me wrong, budget and mid range tyres have there place. But in my opinion its not on performance cars like golf gti's and r32's etc.

sorry Ben you have it the wrong way round Cooper own Avon

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/about-avon

....Whoever owns who doesn't really effect Ben's point that a performance car needs a higher standard of tyre.

We never stop learning, guys! 

[Andy]

Coopers are made by avon, usually last years tread pattern or very similar. Don't get me wrong, budget and mid range tyres have there place. But in my opinion its not on performance cars like golf gti's and r32's etc.

sorry Ben you have it the wrong way round Cooper own Avon

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/about-avon

....Whoever owns who doesn't really effect Ben's point that a performance car needs a higher standard of tyre.

We never stop learning, guys! 

Ben is right i always say to customers with cars like the gti to put good tyres on--Had a customer wanting to put cheap budget tyres on his 911  ..Am still learning stuff bout tyres  as well,it never stops

[monte]

Andy, what do you make of Uniroyal nowadays?

I remember them being a top brand in the 90's.

My dad was forever driving to any from Italy and always bought uniroyals set after set!

The ones I linked to earlier from camskill are a good price!

I know Darren (MortyGtdi) runs em.

[Aweful_Truth]

My falkens fk452 were horrendously noisey, although on my mates Leon no were near as bad.

i found them veeeeeery noisy as well, its like driving on pillows with my new ones can't remember what brand they are haha 

[Ben Smith]

Like you say, uniroyals used to be a top brand and we sold a lot but we currently have two sets on the shelf waiting to go back to uniroyal with complaints. They have both stepped and got very noisy. We are 99% sure uniroyal will send them back and say nothing wrong with them and to be fair, one set has already had plenty of wear out of them, but the customer is always right! Seems to be they are just so soft in the side wall.

[Andy]

Andy, what do you make of Uniroyal nowadays?

I remember them being a top brand in the 90's.

My dad was forever driving to any from Italy and always bought uniroyals set after set!

The ones I linked to earlier from camskill are a good price!

I know Darren (MortyGtdi) runs em.

they used to be popular in the 80 and 90's(remember the advert with the monkey)then they dissapeared for a while  but have made a come back with the one in your link--fittted loads with no complaints but as Ben mentions they are a bit soft,for a extre £10 the vredstein would get my vote or for the same amount of money the Hankook v12

[Mk5 GTian]

Tyres are my day job. There's loads of choice out there depending on your budget, but you really do get what you pay for. The 2 common complaints with the low profile, wide tyres most of us run are road noise and stepping (uneven wear usually on the inside). This is nearly always worse the cheaper the tyre. Unfortunately tyres seem to be something people cut costs on.

Nearly all of us are trying to make our cars quicker, better road holding in the corners and more importantly, under braking will do this without adding any bhp! Save the extra and get some premium rubber.

These tyres are going to be with you for around 20,000 miles, which is a lot of driving. For the sake of an extra 50 quid a corner you can get yourself in the best that Goodyear or Pirelli can offer, and make those miles so much sweeter.

Buying mid range tyres for a GTi is a bit like giving Yussain Bolt a pair of Reebok Classics!  

^^^^ What they said!

Regardless of your car's performance each tyre has a contact area with the road surface which is only about the size of a CD. Do I need to point out anything further such as about braking, grip, and cornering? - It's all you have to rely on and worth being as safe as you possibly can.

To be fair, I have no experience of Falkens and Kuhmos but it's simply not a risk I'm prepared to take. I must assume that these tyres meet the specs to be valid for insurance.

And always fit new deeper tread tyres on the rear axle as Sticky Vicky explains (specially for Ian's pleasure):

http://www.etyres.co.uk/flashmovies/new-tyres-on-rear-800.html

On our FWD cars the tread will wear out more quickly on the front, so I buy just a pair of new tyres at a time and move the rear tyres to the front to make way for the new ones on the rear.

Having driven my GTI over 100,000 miles I find these the best allrounder for fast road use:

I think they should use VBH for all government films. I'd do whatever they want. What's that expression about hands and putty?

[Mk5 GTian]

I was in a similar position on recommendation of mate in tyre shop I had some Coopers fitted i have to say Im very happy they are quiet grip well. I did 300 miles in pouring rain yesterday no aquaplaning and he tells me they wear well £72 each fitted balanced, bargain

....Never even heard of Coopers tyres.

Sometimes there's no point in giving advice on here - I give up!

No don't give up Robin, I've taken an enormous amount on board from you and other wise old Mk 5er's, and have had a lot more enjoyment in a much safer manner as a result of that. My car is in much ruder health too, although I can't say the same for my bank account! 

[RedRobin]

Sometimes there's no point in giving advice on here - I give up!

No don't give up Robin, I've taken an enormous amount on board from you and other wise old Mk 5er's, and have had a lot more enjoyment in a much safer manner as a result of that. My car is in much ruder health too, although I can't say the same for my bank account! 

....No, fear not, I'm not giving up on the forum but was just expressing exasperation - The subject of tyre safety and suitability for our performance cars is beyond that of individual opinion.

Besides, Nursey won't let me out - This forum is like Hotel California: "You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave!"



^ Photo by another "old Mk5-er" called Top Cat.

[Mk5 GTian]

Sometimes there's no point in giving advice on here - I give up!

No don't give up Robin, I've taken an enormous amount on board from you and other wise old Mk 5er's, and have had a lot more enjoyment in a much safer manner as a result of that. My car is in much ruder health too, although I can't say the same for my bank account! 

....No, fear not, I'm not giving up on the forum but was just expressing exasperation - The subject of tyre safety and suitability for our performance cars is beyond that of individual opinion.

Besides, Nursey won't let me out - This forum is like Hotel California: "You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave!"



^ Photo by another "old Mk5-er" called Top Cat.

Ha ha, nice picture RR. I was able to pass on some knowledge to a lad at cricket yesterday, who has 2 decent tyres on the front of his Type R civic, and 2 budget on the back. He was going to wait until they were illegal, but when I explained what you say about the cd-sized contact area between road and rubber, and making this the best possible rubber you can to avoid wrapping yourself around a tree, he gulped, and vowed to get some decent tyres on the back.