Mk6 CW GTi

[Hedge]

Are you getting ~350lb/ft and ~300bhp from that little turbo!!?  That's mad.  I thought these sort of numbers were reserved for Ed.30's, nice car.

You will get around 250 horses and 345 lbft as it's the same engine in my Skoda. 

That'll teach me to read the whole thread. Above figures for stage 1. 

[Raffe]

 

Thanks for feedback chaps

[Snoopy]

Are you getting ~350lb/ft and ~300bhp from that little turbo!!?  That's mad.  I thought these sort of numbers were reserved for Ed.30's, nice car.

You will get around 250 horses and 345 lbft as it's the same engine in my Skoda. 

So basically only more torque over a stage1 car no more Bhp. In which case for the extra cost involved I think stage1 is as far as I will go.

[paulk]

Thanks Paul, hoping to get some 10/12mm spacers in the New Year as wheels sit too far into the arches for my liking.

yeah thats why im keeping my stock R wheels as they fill the arches nice , just needs to be a tad lower

[Raffe]

Are you getting ~350lb/ft and ~300bhp from that little turbo!!?  That's mad.  I thought these sort of numbers were reserved for Ed.30's, nice car.

You will get around 250 horses and 345 lbft as it's the same engine in my Skoda. 

So basically only more torque over a stage1 car no more Bhp. In which case for the extra cost involved I think stage1 is as far as I will go.

Nope look at the graphs, as near as damn it 300bhp at stage 2 which is at least another 25-30 bhp, with Kenny's car achieving these figures with the exhaust and intake I bought from him 

Dry roads today has enabled me to have a bit of a play, power is absolutely relentless from 3k rpm

[zerolag]

Frankly I'm shocked a Stage 1 TSI can achieve 345lb/ft of torque from that small turbo... iirc it's smaller than the K03... it must be more on the TSI motor over the FSI motor than the turbo itself - what sort of boost you running?

[paulk]

i test drove a 2010 golf gti , was very good ...The engine felt more responsive and with the dsg it felt very very nice

[damoegan]

........ I think stage1 is as far as I will go.

Are you stage 1 now, Geoff?

I'm after a mk6 GTI in a year or so 

[Snoopy]

No but I've driven Kens a few times and once the winters over and its out of warrenty I probably will be but I want to make sure its working right again first so prob will stick on a RR before end of March.

[damoegan]

Theres a RR day at PTD in SUnderland in Feb 

[zerolag]

So a stage 1 mk6 GTI makes more torque than a stage 1 K04  Or are these graphs very optimistic

[Snoopy]

  :More graphs of stage 2
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=178682.0
 
Video of stock v stage1 v stage 2
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=243498.

[zerolag]

  :More graphs of stage 2
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=178682.0

Quoting someone on that page

Firstly, they recorded 246bhp from a standard mk6 on the dyno.

[Raffe]

Quoting some more people from that page...

Heres my results    Murder to hold down in the wet!

Dyno dynamic is the ones thats normally quite acurate iirc? :cool:

 

To be fair dyno graphs need to be taken with a pinch of salt as the numbers can be tweaked to read the numbers you want to see, and by no means am I insisting my car has 'X' power figure just trying to get a feel for what's possible.

I am hoping to have a rolling road session ASAP and would love to come along to one with modded MK5's running as same day and conditions would give a realistic comparison.

All I do know is the car is absolutely brutal, and surprisingly feels quicker than my old EP3 Civic Type-R which was running around 285bhp with a Jackson Racing supercharger and I would guess around 150-200kgs lighter.

What I have learnt is that VAG turbo tuning unleashes a fair few additional horsepower for very little cash compared to the Honda scene, it was wallet busting unless you went forced induction.....which didn't come cheap either 

[zerolag]

Numbers aside, what I don't like about the smaller turbos, is there inability to hold the boost creating spikey torque maps... on both mk5/mk6; where as the K04 holds boost over more of the rev range... the Aero Saabs were like this too.  This comes down to larger turbos I guess.  It does make them slightly more laggy to spool.