Out of curiosity.. Top speed gti ko4 turbo?

[bushypad]

You wont get much quicker 0-60 with all that power through FWD, as it will just equate to wheelspin.  I have always though 0-60 is a pointless stat, as most of our daily driving is done in the mid range and not with traffic light grand prixs.  I like 30-70 stats etc as that shows the cars true potential performance wise.  My car is stage 2+ and I find thats more than enough for the roads power wise. I know people thirst for more power and if you google these 1000bhp Supra etc.  When ever they try to use the power the rear wheels just spin up like crazy There is a point when too much power starts to make the car slower as you cant use it and just spin the wheels all the time. Peak figures count for nothing and its how the power is applied from the engine to road that makes the difference.  An extra 40-50bhp is not going to shave seconds of a 30-70 time. You will be looking at a second or two if you are lucky. I was thinking of going K04 but am happy and staying K03, as I wouldnt notice that much difference on the road performace wise, a track to an extent but not on the road.

I think an anti lift kit by whiteline and engine mount would surely help keep the car planted better with that extra power.

[RedRobin]

You wont get much quicker 0-60 with all that power through FWD, as it will just equate to wheelspin.  I have always though 0-60 is a pointless stat, as most of our daily driving is done in the mid range and not with traffic light grand prixs.  I like 30-70 stats etc as that shows the cars true potential performance wise.  My car is stage 2+ and I find thats more than enough for the roads power wise. I know people thirst for more power and if you google these 1000bhp Supra etc.  When ever they try to use the power the rear wheels just spin up like crazy There is a point when too much power starts to make the car slower as you cant use it and just spin the wheels all the time. Peak figures count for nothing and its how the power is applied from the engine to road that makes the difference.  An extra 40-50bhp is not going to shave seconds of a 30-70 time. You will be looking at a second or two if you are lucky. I was thinking of going K04 but am happy and staying K03, as I wouldnt notice that much difference on the road performace wise, a track to an extent but not on the road.

....Hear! Hear!  

How the car performs 30-70 and 70-90 are far more relevant for fast and safe road use. (And also how well a car handles on British B-roads is far more relevant than top speed, IMO).

Apart from the fact that the OEM speedo can be more than 10% inaccurate (mine is 15% inaccurate compared with 2 independent GPS systems) I think it's the hatchback aerodynamics which start to really slow down acceleration after about 135 mph - I have experimented with this on unrestricted sections of autobahn.

Unless you are living in Germany and regularly driving on unrestricted autobahns (they're not all unrestricted), what on earth is the point of modifying your car to achieve that level of maximum top speed? Willy waving?

[RedRobin]

I think an anti lift kit by whiteline and engine mount would surely help keep the car planted better with that extra power.

....Planted a little better and improving traction when accelerating but I doubt if this would help you reach a higher max speed figure.

[rich83]

Your findings robin are typical of the k03 turbo... you would find that if you drove a K04 in the same high speed situation that you would get better acceleration. 

[Hurdy]

I've had 167mph on the GPS on my old ED30 DSG, but with a longer stretch there would have been more in it.

I agree to a certain extent with OctyVRS, it is more about the mid range acceleration than ultimate top speed performance. I do think that the 0-60mph is relevant in as much as it is the yardstick that most performance cars are measured against, although those damn eurocrats continually now quote 0-62mph as it falls in line with 0-100kph.  

For me 30-70mph and 60-100mph (both done through the gears)are the other recognised performance figures commonly used. 70-90mph is very rarely used.

[MC71]

You wont get much quicker 0-60 with all that power through FWD, as it will just equate to wheelspin.  I have always though 0-60 is a pointless stat, as most of our daily driving is done in the mid range and not with traffic light grand prixs.  I like 30-70 stats etc as that shows the cars true potential performance wise.  My car is stage 2+ and I find thats more than enough for the roads power wise. I know people thirst for more power and if you google these 1000bhp Supra etc.  When ever they try to use the power the rear wheels just spin up like crazy There is a point when too much power starts to make the car slower as you cant use it and just spin the wheels all the time. Peak figures count for nothing and its how the power is applied from the engine to road that makes the difference.  An extra 40-50bhp is not going to shave seconds of a 30-70 time. You will be looking at a second or two if you are lucky. I was thinking of going K04 but am happy and staying K03, as I wouldnt notice that much difference on the road performace wise, a track to an extent but not on the road.

....Hear! Hear!  

How the car performs 30-70 and 70-90 are far more relevant for fast and safe road use. (And also how well a car handles on British B-roads is far more relevant than top speed, IMO).

Apart from the fact that the OEM speedo can be more than 10% inaccurate (mine is 15% inaccurate compared with 2 independent GPS systems) I think it's the hatchback aerodynamics which start to really slow down acceleration after about 135 mph - I have experimented with this on unrestricted sections of autobahn.

Unless you are living in Germany and regularly driving on unrestricted autobahns (they're not all unrestricted), what on earth is the point of modifying your car to achieve that level of maximum top speed? Willy waving?

Really good points on both counts peeps!  

Willy waving is a big factor I believe.  My cars got xxx bhp, my cars does xxx 0-60mph, my cars achieved xxx top speed. Not really bothered what bhp my car has or how fast it goes as long as It does what I want it to do. But saying that there are peeps on the forum who are trying for low 0-60 times and quick 1/4 miles etc and who are genuinely doing it to see what is achievable and good luck to them as there does not seem to be any willy waving involved.
 

[Hurdy]

Just to add.....30-130mph is a fun measure.......on track of course. This trackday allows you to do a top speed run over a 1.2 mile course too.

http://www.lancerregister.com/mlrsprint/30130results.php?eventid=20120318&last=5

[Tamiyoman]

You wont get much quicker 0-60 with all that power through FWD, as it will just equate to wheelspin.  I have always though 0-60 is a pointless stat, as most of our daily driving is done in the mid range and not with traffic light grand prixs.  I like 30-70 stats etc as that shows the cars true potential performance wise.  My car is stage 2+ and I find thats more than enough for the roads power wise. I know people thirst for more power and if you google these 1000bhp Supra etc.  When ever they try to use the power the rear wheels just spin up like crazy There is a point when too much power starts to make the car slower as you cant use it and just spin the wheels all the time. Peak figures count for nothing and its how the power is applied from the engine to road that makes the difference.  An extra 40-50bhp is not going to shave seconds of a 30-70 time. You will be looking at a second or two if you are lucky. I was thinking of going K04 but am happy and staying K03, as I wouldnt notice that much difference on the road performace wise, a track to an extent but not on the road.

Yes agreed 30-50 and 50-70 are more readily used and where I live (no motorways) its mainly 40-60mph as all the HGV drivers sit at 40 in the 60mph de-restricted A roads (paid hourly aren't they!), so that gets used most.

It is funny watching oncoming drivers (usually elderly drivers) flashing their lights at an empty stretch of road as you are in an out past a tractor/hgv/combine in a couple of seconds 

[Sunglasses Ron]

You wont get much quicker 0-60 with all that power through FWD, as it will just equate to wheelspin.  I have always though 0-60 is a pointless stat,

That's not entirely true mate.. My ED30 when just Stage 1 (+ Milly TBE) was running consistant 5.0-5.1 sec 0-60 runs when timed by a V-Box or @ Inters. That was with DSG though, so that will make a difference..
I do agree that 0-60 is a pointless stat though   Sooo many people judge a car on it's 0-60 time and it couldn't be more misleading if it tried. Just look at the newer Subaru WRXs for example - quick off the mark (4WD), but on their arse once past 80 mph and will have most similar powered hot hatches whistling past them after that..
30mph onwards is where it is at   This is why I love the 30-130mph days so much. Nowhere to hide on those days and it was there where I found out how far out the MK5 clocks are when at high speeds... 174 on the speedo only equated to 158 in real money..   What was strange though was at 60mph it was only out by 0.8mph..  

[RedRobin]

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Yeah, I can see the point of folks going for 0-60 quarter-miles etc but not the practical real-world point in the UK of the maximum top speed.

John (Hurdy), I find 70-90 rather more commonly used than I perhaps should admit - It's very helpful in getting someone off your tailgate on M-ways/DC's. I always try to avoid driving in the close company of other vehicles and use my car's performance to avoid those pods of traffic which are invariably travelling much too close to each other for their speed. The average driver is more comfortable driving at 60-70 and also trying to conserve fuel (they don't necessarily actually enjoy driving like us) but the result is bunched traffic and multi vehicle pile-ups when it goes wrong. IF conditions are right/safe, I prefer to get ahead of such pods rather than to slow to 60-65 and have to follow them.

[Tamiyoman]

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Yeah, I can see the point of folks going for 0-60 quarter-miles etc but not the practical real-world point in the UK of the maximum top speed.

John (Hurdy), I find 70-90 rather more commonly used than I perhaps should admit - It's very helpful in getting someone off your tailgate on M-ways/DC's. I always try to avoid driving in the close company of other vehicles and use my car's performance to avoid those pods of traffic which are invariably travelling much too close to each other for their speed. The average driver is more comfortable driving at 60-70 and also trying to conserve fuel (they don't necessarily actually enjoy driving like us) but the result is bunched traffic and multi vehicle pile-ups when it goes wrong. IF conditions are right/safe, I prefer to get ahead of such pods rather than to slow to 60-65 and have to follow them.

Hey Robin try sitting behind 16 cars and an HGV for 3 miles and none of the cars want to overtake (at 40mph in a 60) and you manage to pass them all, then you catch up to 3 HGV's all tailgating each other, you get past one, slot in the gap and they tailgate you  , then comes the only bit of dual carriageway (3 miles long) and funnily thats exactly how long it normally takes the one behind to pass the guy in front as he is doing 1.1mph faster, very annoying  .

Is it just me or does anyone else notice that when your stuck behind someone all the bendy/blind parts of the road are traffic free and as soon as you come to a straight theres oncoming traffic  

[RedRobin]

Is it just me or does anyone else notice that when your stuck behind someone all the bendy/blind parts of the road are traffic free and as soon as you come to a straight theres oncoming traffic 

....It's just you, mate, it's a either karma or a conspiracy 

Frustrating but a test of your ability to stay calm and just go with the flow. At least it's great to have the 2.0T FSI performance when a safe opportunity to overtake eventually presents itself.

[Tamiyoman]

Is it just me or does anyone else notice that when your stuck behind someone all the bendy/blind parts of the road are traffic free and as soon as you come to a straight theres oncoming traffic 

....It's just you, mate, it's a either karma or a conspiracy 

Frustrating but a test of your ability to stay calm and just go with the flow. At least it's great to have the 2.0T FSI performance when a safe opportunity to overtake eventually presents itself.

I think its just where I live mate, Lots of HGV's on the A roads and no one willing to overtake them, usually its 3 at a time these days 

[Sammy]

Wow that is crazy speed.. Reason i ask is i was on the autobahn not long ago and hit 162mph in my stage 2+ gti and am now considering ko4. Have been told to expect around 330bhp!

I Think it's more like 350 bhp 

i think its more like 330bhp 

i think its the dyno 

[martziniuk]

I was thinking of going K04 but am happy and staying K03, as I wouldnt notice that much difference on the road performace wise, a track to an extent but not on the road.

I remember you saying something similar when you were at Stage 1(or 2?) but thinking of stage 2+, I see you made the leap  
K04 next then........