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h4rdy:
I can see both sides of the story if I am honest.

1) Yes its nobodys business but the seller and buyer.
2) But in my early days on here I nearly bought an S3 Intercooler off a member which was more expensive than walking into Audi and buying it. He was basically seeing  a noob and pricing accordingly. When I tried to warn people I just got lambasted by a Mod.

So yes point 2 makes it seem valid but point 1 overules point 2!

I can see where your coming from RR but its a private transaction.

I won't be selling anything on here anymore, if I can help it, as one particular member took it upon himself to arrange the purchase of my wheels via PM then offer me £150 less on the listing, twice! He got reported by me and other members but I suspect it will carry on.

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: h4rdy on May 15, 2012, 03:50:45 am ---
I won't be selling anything on here anymore, if I can help it, as one particular member took it upon himself to arrange the purchase of my wheels via PM then offer me £150 less on the listing, twice! He got reported by me and other members but I suspect it will carry on.


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....Hindsight is an exact science but I think I would have refused his offers by PM and told him to make his offers publicly in your sale thread. I wouldn't let one or two members spoil it for you by not selling anything in future on this forum - Just do your own policing as far as possible.

People trying to 'negotiate' a purchase by PM without any public registration of serious interest in the seller's forum thread is something which I am strongly against - It's very underhand and furthermore completely undermines the fair principle of 'first dibs'. It's no better than a blind auction, IMO. However, such behaviour is virtually impossible to police unless forum Admin/Mods view all our PM's. There is a case for the PM feature to be switched off (if possible) and a forum section opened specifically for open messaging - Could be interesting but is anyone brave enough to instigate it, on first consideration it sounds unpopular but we would quickly get used to it. It ain't gonna happen though!

As this forum has increased its membership it can't help but include a wider variety of characters of people. Inevitably, some are less honest or open than others.

One thing that niggles me is why a purchasing transaction should be thought of as so strictly private by many folks on here - What have folks got to hide? This contradicts some of the same folks saying that purchase details should be declared in forum Reviews.

Enough said - We are all human and that's how most humans behave.

edd666999:
You want to try selling on avforums! They are much bigger than this forum but I think we could learn something from them in regards to a classified section. You cannot pm someone about an item until a sale price is agreed on the thread for all to see, this is so future sales can reflect this price and to increase security. You cannot sell and item anywhere else at the same time as avforums. There are loads of other rules too that I can't be bothered typing out on my iPhone but their classifieds run very smoothly! So much public info that PayPal refunded 3people who paid a a member for some items he never shipped, they paid via gift however! So due to the structure of the sale they were very well protected

RedRobin:

--- Quote from: edd666999 on May 15, 2012, 09:17:01 am ---
You want to try selling on avforums! They are much bigger than this forum but I think we could learn something from them in regards to a classified section. You cannot pm someone about an item until a sale price is agreed on the thread for all to see, this is so future sales can reflect this price and to increase security. You cannot sell and item anywhere else at the same time as avforums. There are loads of other rules too that I can't be bothered typing out on my iPhone but their classifieds run very smoothly! So much public info that PayPal refunded 3people who paid a a member for some items he never shipped, they paid via gift however! So due to the structure of the sale they were very well protected


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....Now THAT is exactly what I'm talking about! [said in a Seb Vettel voice]

But how do they police it?

edd666999:
well for a start(because they are larger) they have more users with a high post count, people value their ability to use the forum. Its not quite like a car forum as once you sell the golf your next car might not be a golf, home av if a life time commitment!  :grin: So once you post up an item (which has to follow a specific format) the thread is then monitored by mods, so if you suddenly say sold you would be asked why? and given an infraction (a points system that doesn't = prizes but a ban) you cant compare prices to ebay (think this is quite good, this is because an item sold by a enthusiast is more likely to be in better condition + its not a auction) I personally dont think there is a problem with it, someone says a want £1000 for this projector and on the tread you offer him £800, he says no but we can meet in the middle at £900, if you then say no and walk away the £900 is now the new asking price for the projector.

Give me a moment i will go copy and paste their rules.

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