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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2012, 07:21:58 pm »
If the fuel pump has a problem, fuel will be getting in the crankcase and washing the cylinder walls and potentially getting into the combustion chamber giving you oily looking plugs and sh*te loads of smoke..
compression test as like has been also recommended by some, and if you have fuel smelling oil, then remove the fuel pump and check that.
These engines are pretty robust unless you are modding silly power which you aren't .

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2012, 07:27:55 pm »
Dude, i have just been reading one of your other topics. You said Oil light had come on so you topped up with 2ltrs of oil. With oil on minimum theres no way it should take 2 ltrs.

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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2012, 07:28:26 pm »
Colour of smoke?

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2012, 07:41:48 pm »
Thanks for the advice guys, but as said before its near impossible for a engine swap as that would mean car parked for 2 months while I save up.
Yes your right about the oil I topped up past the max which was a mistake, it has now been drained to the correct level.

The fuel pump problem seems likely too aswell but surely that would come up on diagnostics? I will get that checked after compression test.

The colour of the smoke is white mostly and sometimes black slightly PDT
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2012, 07:46:12 pm »
White = water
blue = oil
Black/grey = fuel

Find a local specialist that an carry out a leakdown compression test and has a bore scope.

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2012, 07:48:27 pm »
Sounds like the last car your mechanic worked on was a Morris Ital. I haven't heard of anyone's rings going. Take it somewhere used to complex modern kit.
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2012, 07:49:59 pm »
Thanks for the advice guys, but as said before its near impossible for a engine swap as that would mean car parked for 2 months while I save up.
Yes your right about the oil I topped up past the max which was a mistake, it has now been drained to the correct level.

The fuel pump problem seems likely too aswell but surely that would come up on diagnostics? I will get that checked after compression test.

The colour of the smoke is white mostly and sometimes black slightly PDT


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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2012, 07:51:14 pm »
White = water
blue = oil
Black/grey = fuel

Find a local specialist that an carry out a leakdown compression test and has a bore scope.

White isn't always water.  If a turbo dies or a piston fails then it can be a white/grey smoke.
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2012, 07:55:01 pm »
White = water
blue = oil
Black/grey = fuel

Find a local specialist that an carry out a leakdown compression test and has a bore scope.

White isn't always water.  If a turbo dies or a piston fails then it can be a white/grey smoke.


Yes, I agree. Oil can be white/grey if the oil isnt being burnt. Piston ring failure usually causes the oil to burn as part of the combustion process and gives blue smoke due to the higher burn temperature. Oil burning at lowrer temps i.e in the exhaust from the heat inside a cat for example is likely to burn white/light grey.

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2012, 07:56:50 pm »
Not a good idea driving it hard with the k04 and with he k03 N75 mapping, I would say you could have been boosting to 30+psi with ease. :confused:

You could have easy popped the turbine seals allowing oil to be dumped into the down pipe or blow the head gasket?  

To echo all the comments above, you need to get it checked out by a a vag specialist, not someone who thinks of the first think that springs to mind (piston rings)  There are many tests a mechanic can do on the engine to pin point the cause, much better then guess work.


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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2012, 08:12:47 pm »
Yeah I know I have made a huge mistake driving it hard, I am using the BSH PCV revamp plate nick
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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2012, 08:24:01 pm »

Yeah I know I have made a huge mistake driving it hard


....What's done is now done but several of us strongly advised you to granny it until you got the appropriate remap. You have now learnt something the hard way. I hope this can be correctly diagnosed quickly so your suffering isn't extended.


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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2012, 08:26:51 pm »
ouch dude,  put ur old pvc system back on and see if you get white smoke.   i get while smoke everynow and then due to my catch can.

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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2012, 08:35:10 pm »
I doubt its the pcv revamp becuase its been fine for months any smoke i seen before would be minor this smoke just looks dangerous, Its like pouring out with smoke
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2012, 08:47:40 pm »
Any chance of a quick video???