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Offline geordie56

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2012, 09:14:12 pm »
I have a good low mileage s3 engine for sale in the for sale section, just let me know what route you are taking and of it will be of any interest. Cheers. Good luck.

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2012, 09:54:50 pm »
Just hope for your sake you dont have to go down the road I went down to try and solve the problem.
When my rings died I'm sure it was black/grey smoke mine was pumping out :stupid: hardly used any oil since work was all done compared to what it was guzzling before rings and valve stem oil seals were done

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2012, 09:57:38 pm »
Just hope for your sake you dont have to go down the road I went down to try and solve the problem.
When my rings died I'm sure it was black/grey smoke mine was pumping out :stupid: hardly used any oil since work was all done compared to what it was guzzling before rings and valve stem oil seals were done

Do you mean the oil usage was very heavy at the time your rings went? What caused your rings to go?
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2012, 10:05:48 pm »
yes mate, was guzzling oil really badly.
No idea what happened, replaced allsorts, spent months in garages, all sorted eventually.
everyone I knew that drove behind me comented on the clouds of smoke the car threw out. Spent around £4k in the end, replaced loads of parts that didnt need doing.
Youre best bet is to take it to a good vw specialist that knows what theyre doing

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2012, 10:17:45 pm »
damn so what was the problem at the end also do you remember the part numbers for the rings or the things that actually needed replacing?
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2012, 11:34:33 pm »
Very interesting thread for me...I was considering keeping my K04 on the car but returning it to standard map and selling intake, inter cooler, HPFP, etc if I could not sell the car 'as is'. I may need to rethink that one!

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2012, 11:39:16 pm »
Very interesting thread for me...I was considering keeping my K04 on the car but returning it to standard map and selling intake, inter cooler, HPFP, etc if I could not sell the car 'as is'. I may need to rethink that one!

Since you're running revo then setting the sps to "standard" map should allow you to do the above.
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2012, 03:45:27 am »
So what is the block made of in the TFSI? If it is the pistons surely i should go and get S3 ones if i have to change them anyways?

Yes Robin it is the same car with the K04 fitted recently

That really lightweight cast iron  :wink:

Does that mean there shouldnt be any bolts to thread back on? When they mentioned the threading the bolts back on can cost £300 on top of the labour charge given it seems very steeep
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2012, 03:47:25 am »
I'm not entirely sure why they would want to re-thread any bolts, head bolts should be changed as a matter of course, if these are the bolts they're referring to. A compression test is pretty much as it sounds, showing the compression created in each cylinder. This would show if piston rings are worn by having little or no compression in the cylinder. As said, if the cylinders are badly scorn you may need to machine and fit oversized pistons/rings. £800 isn't too bad if you consider what is being done, if that includes honing/machining too. Especially when you think just a cambelt can be £400 odd alone.

If i get new head bolts do they not need re threading then? £800 is the initial price tomorrow after compression I am going to use my haggling skills to bring that right down
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2012, 04:57:14 am »
Thanks for the advice guys, but as said before its near impossible for a engine swap as that would mean car parked for 2 months while I save up.
Yes your right about the oil I topped up past the max which was a mistake, it has now been drained to the correct level.

The fuel pump problem seems likely too aswell but surely that would come up on diagnostics? I will get that checked after compression test.

The colour of the smoke is white mostly and sometimes black slightly PDT


too much oil + white smoke = cracked cylinder head/head gasket?
My thoughts also. Kicking the sh*t out of the car whilst having too much oil in wont have done any good what so ever

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2012, 08:43:32 am »
This seems to be a typical example of a garage going off course without letting the owner have too much detail. If they suggest things need doing, ask which things. Ask why they need doing, what caused it and how they intend to fix it. If you do want to let this garage do the work for you the least they can do is explain exactly what work will be done. Ask all the questions you can think of, it's their job to answer them at the end of the day. That way, you can let us know exactly what's being done and people here can provide further advice/support. It's either that or take it to a highly recommended technician on here whose advice you don't need to question. :happy2:
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2012, 08:52:00 am »
I'm not entirely sure why they would want to re-thread any bolts, head bolts should be changed as a matter of course, if these are the bolts they're referring to. A compression test is pretty much as it sounds, showing the compression created in each cylinder. This would show if piston rings are worn by having little or no compression in the cylinder. As said, if the cylinders are badly scorn you may need to machine and fit oversized pistons/rings. £800 isn't too bad if you consider what is being done, if that includes honing/machining too. Especially when you think just a cambelt can be £400 odd alone.

If i get new head bolts do they not need re threading then? £800 is the initial price tomorrow after compression I am going to use my haggling skills to bring that right down

Dont do ANY haggling with them at all. You have been told the correct course of action. Take the car to a proper VW tuner that knows the engine. Or we will see another thread in a few weeks at how you spunked another £800 on a partial engine rebuild for it to then die again.

You have been warned several times by people. Be humble and heed the advice.
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2012, 09:28:00 am »


Dont do ANY haggling with them at all. You have been told the correct course of action. Take the car to a proper VW tuner that knows the engine. Or we will see another thread in a few weeks at how you spunked another £800 on a partial engine rebuild for it to then die again.

You have been warned several times by people. Be humble and heed the advice.
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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2012, 09:36:59 am »
+1 ^^^^^^^^^^

My head hurts reading this,You knew the car wasnt set up right and still chose to rag the ass out of it Sammy.

You have been told to take the car to a VW specialist so do it as it will save you some money in the long run although i feel you are about to fork out some very serious dollars..

Good luck tho.

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Re: Disaster :@
« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2012, 10:48:23 am »
+2 ^^^^^^^

Sammy sorry to kick you when your down, but listen to what your being told, it's sound advise and will save you £££ at the end of the day  :innocent: