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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #195 on: May 30, 2012, 10:04:29 pm »
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #196 on: May 31, 2012, 05:34:48 pm »
Like I said before by fitting the S3 injecotrs the car would have been save to drive normally to get to a tuner as the B1S1 would work open loop and trim the injection to keep the lambda with in range.   I am still convinced its down to the turbo side of things, when I spoke to Sammy on the phone he did mention he had some good spirited runs under full boot..... what the full boost number was no body knows. 
 But put it this was I had a celtic tuning Stage 1 ED30 in the other day with an agressive N75 I-pilot map (like the K03 stage 2 tuned N75 maps) and his car was boosting to 29psi  it ease and making 408lbft.

If your going to add bigger turbo / injectors ect...  then just add a little common sense  before getting the car mapped.

I am quite convinced it is the turbo too and changing it out, will update once changed
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #197 on: June 05, 2012, 05:48:11 pm »
Update:

Toda had the turbo changed out along with new spark plugs and got the car started and took it for a drive. At about 3k revs the car just cuts the power out and a blast of smoke comes out then dissapears (NOT THRASHING IT!), This was with about a little more then 1/4 of the pedal being pressed. Does this sound like overfuelling and cutting out?
I am sure theres excess oil still in the system from before thats burning out but not sure how long this will take to clear out.
Also from the turbo that came out of the car we noticed on the manifold one of the holes had quite a lot of black soot on it, Anyone have a idea about this?
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #198 on: June 05, 2012, 05:50:20 pm »
took 2 weeks to burn the oil out of my exhaust

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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #199 on: June 05, 2012, 06:05:53 pm »
What happened to your car? Also did you smoke just the same as you did before your problem?
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #200 on: June 05, 2012, 06:17:33 pm »
Update:

Toda had the turbo changed out along with new spark plugs and got the car started and took it for a drive. At about 3k revs the car just cuts the power out and a blast of smoke comes out then dissapears (NOT THRASHING IT!), This was with about a little more then 1/4 of the pedal being pressed. Does this sound like overfuelling and cutting out?
I am sure theres excess oil still in the system from before thats burning out but not sure how long this will take to clear out.
Also from the turbo that came out of the car we noticed on the manifold one of the holes had quite a lot of black soot on it, Anyone have a idea about this?


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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #201 on: June 05, 2012, 06:24:43 pm »
Now your non the wiser like I said you would be. You have to get it mapped for that turbo. Had you gone ko3 diagnosis would be easier.

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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #202 on: June 05, 2012, 06:30:52 pm »
Now your non the wiser like I said you would be. You have to get it mapped for that turbo. Had you gone ko3 diagnosis would be easier.

I want to get it mapped though? Of course I need to
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #203 on: June 05, 2012, 06:32:13 pm »
Update:

Toda had the turbo changed out along with new spark plugs and got the car started and took it for a drive. At about 3k revs the car just cuts the power out and a blast of smoke comes out then dissapears (NOT THRASHING IT!), This was with about a little more then 1/4 of the pedal being pressed. Does this sound like overfuelling and cutting out?
I am sure theres excess oil still in the system from before thats burning out but not sure how long this will take to clear out.
Also from the turbo that came out of the car we noticed on the manifold one of the holes had quite a lot of black soot on it, Anyone have a idea about this?


....What do the people now doing the work on your car think about what's currently happening?

Know nothing yet they said to drive it for a while taking it easy
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #204 on: June 05, 2012, 07:58:53 pm »
Now your non the wiser like I said you would be. You have to get it mapped for that turbo. Had you gone ko3 diagnosis would be easier.

I want to get it mapped though? Of course I need to

So you spend x on getting it mapped, to which they cant map it due to problems x, y and z. Wasted money.

You ask whats could be the issue with your car now? possibly the map.


Had you gone ko3, maps not the issue, turbos fine, injectors are not causing it, all the pipes you changed dv relocation kit isnt to blame. Leaves a smaller area to troubleshoot.

Its all IMO. My job is based on Systematically resolving complex issues and to me this is all backwards  :signLOL:

Fingers crossed how ever after a few miles all your problems are sorted and a map gets you back on your feet.

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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #205 on: June 05, 2012, 08:30:21 pm »
Now your non the wiser like I said you would be. You have to get it mapped for that turbo. Had you gone ko3 diagnosis would be easier.

I want to get it mapped though? Of course I need to

So you spend x on getting it mapped, to which they cant map it due to problems x, y and z. Wasted money.

You ask whats could be the issue with your car now? possibly the map.


Had you gone ko3, maps not the issue, turbos fine, injectors are not causing it, all the pipes you changed dv relocation kit isnt to blame. Leaves a smaller area to troubleshoot.

Its all IMO. My job is based on Systematically resolving complex issues and to me this is all backwards  :signLOL:

Fingers crossed how ever after a few miles all your problems are sorted and a map gets you back on your feet.

Yeah but what if everything just goes fine after a few miles then that's success it's a gamble really, yeah your right I could have put everything back on again but what if the fault is still there? That would mean I would have to revert back to k04 setup ALL over again including what ever needs fixing on top and at this moment I can easily sell of the k04 as a faulty one if this new turbo solves the problem, just got to drive and see now
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #206 on: June 05, 2012, 08:33:00 pm »
Don't forget if it was the turbo then my car would still be smoking woundnt it from the remains on oil in the system? Is there anything like a oil flush out?
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #207 on: June 05, 2012, 08:54:30 pm »
Something tells me the intercooler and hoses have not been flushed of oil  :stupid:
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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #208 on: June 05, 2012, 09:12:31 pm »
As Alex mentions did the inter cooler get cleaned out of waste oil--my car is a tdi but the problem with mine was the engine was breating and filling the turbo with oil well all of it :signLOL:after the inter cooler was cleaned out it took 2 weeks to properly clear

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Re: Disaster :@ UPDATE
« Reply #209 on: June 05, 2012, 09:41:11 pm »
No the intercooler pipes were not taken off, are you talking about excess oil that may have been there because there wasn't much there at all very minimal, also when te turbo was taken out it appeared quiet dry in both sides of it
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