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UNIbraces XB & UB - Review (UPDATED 23rd Oct)....
Tfsi_Mike:
--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on October 26, 2012, 02:08:57 pm ---I can see how the XB boot brace can work.
But the UB, i cant really see having a huge difference unless your bouncing off of kerbs like a touring car driver as I cant really be that many other instances where you would get that much flex though the underbody in daily "fast road" driving
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:happy2: :happy2:
berg:
I fitted both at same time so cant comment on the individual ability of each brace. Bruce however has confirmed that the XB does far more than the UB. Pipewerx who fited my braces confirmed that he could see that the XB would make a fair amount of difference whereas the UB "might not do much"
All I know is that after fitting both I can fling the car round tight bends and maintain control where previously carrying that much speed into the cormer would not have been possible/safe.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on October 26, 2012, 02:08:57 pm ---
I can see how the XB boot brace can work.
But the UB, i cant really see having a huge difference unless your bouncing off of kerbs like a touring car driver as I cant really be that many other instances where you would get that much flex though the underbody in daily "fast road" driving
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....If you refer to my review you'll read that my experiences were that the UB has definite positive effects but not as strongly as the XB.
The difference isn't "huge" but I found there is a difference and I am pleased that I have both the XB and UB fitted - I simply enjoy the result on handling even if my car isn't a BTCC race car. It doesn't make me a faster driver but it does add to my confidence in my ride and my enjoyment.
rich83:
--- Quote from: Tfsi_Mike on October 26, 2012, 02:13:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: Janner_Sy on October 26, 2012, 02:08:57 pm ---I can see how the XB boot brace can work.
But the UB, i cant really see having a huge difference unless your bouncing off of kerbs like a touring car driver as I cant really be that many other instances where you would get that much flex though the underbody in daily "fast road" driving
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:happy2: :happy2:
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:happy2: :happy2:
I look at thinks from a mechanical/physics/material point of view. Next time you are under a car just take a look at the structure of the car. My brain says that the TOTAL chassis cannot be significantly stiffened by a piece of metal that is probably 1/5th the total width of the cars chassis.
Similarly... look at the front subframe. Are you telling me that this piece of metal increases the rigidity of a massive piece of ali, and therefore tighten up the front end? :surprised:
Im always happy to be proven wrong...
Im not trying to be difficult or awkward here... I just like to see things work/happen.. its just the way my noggin works! :smiley:
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: richwig83 on October 26, 2012, 03:26:43 pm ---
I look at thinks from a mechanical/physics/material point of view. Next time you are under a car just take a look at the structure of the car. My brain says that the TOTAL chassis cannot be significantly stiffened by a piece of metal that is probably 1/5th the total width of the cars chassis.
Similarly... look at the front subframe. Are you telling me that this piece of metal increases the rigidity of a massive piece of ali, and therefore tighten up the front end? :surprised:
Im always happy to be proven wrong...
Im not trying to be difficult or awkward here... I just like to see things work/happen.. its just the way my noggin works! :smiley:
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....I respect you challenging the product, Rich, and that's why I'm bothering to reply :smiley:
No-one has claimed that the UNIbrace UB or XB or both, stiffens the TOTAL chassis. But only that the UNIbraces ADD to the stiffness and, importantly, that the 'open box' structure of the Golf hatchback can benefit from the additional stiffness. Have I written something in my Review which needs correction in this respect?
It's very interesting that you have posted a pic of that front brace because I know that Bruce of UNIbrace has considered the front underbody brace, but so far hasn't been convinced that it will do anything as the motor is already quite a chunk of stressed metal in that area. Assuming someone already uses upgraded mounts he is not sure that he can add anything in this area. However, if he can be confident that a 'FB' (Front Brace) can add anything significant then I expect he may produce one. A prototype rear brace (RB) is currently being tested in America.
This further supports the fact that the UNIbrace UB and XB products do not add to the TOTAL chassis stiffness. Reports from users, not just myself, state that stiffness is added and the car feels stiffer and more taut and tactile to drive. Of course, not everyone wants additional stiffness 'feel' in their car.
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