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Offline RedRobin

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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2012, 06:25:47 pm »
^^^^
You forgot the UNIbrace XB, John - Makes a big difference to how the car feels planted.  :evilgrin:
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2012, 07:10:03 pm »
Quote from: Saintsteve on June 07, 2012, 05:51:31 pm
Quote from: Hedge on June 07, 2012, 05:32:37 pm
The Golf R has bigger brakes as standard.

that will be due to the extra weight then.

270PS..... :popcornsoda:

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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2012, 07:33:54 pm »
Quote from: Hedge on June 07, 2012, 07:10:03 pm
Quote from: Saintsteve on June 07, 2012, 05:51:31 pm
Quote from: Hedge on June 07, 2012, 05:32:37 pm
The Golf R has bigger brakes as standard.

that will be due to the extra weight then.

270PS..... :popcornsoda:



And the weight difference is what ian between R and GTi  :popcornsoda:  

121kg's is it not  :P

Any more reasons ? :confused:
« Last Edit: June 07, 2012, 07:39:53 pm by Saintsteve »
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2012, 08:32:48 pm »
im lost with this thread :signLOL: the golf is a great car stock, nobody is saying it isn't, just that its better with suspension, brakes etc...., as for a mapped one, then frankly the suspension and particulary the brakes need changing with the map, whats a stage 2 plus eddy? 360bhp? thats 130 more than stock, so obvoiusly the car is overwhelmed. this isn't rocket science.   
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2012, 09:26:55 pm »
Quote from: Saintsteve on June 07, 2012, 07:33:54 pm
And the weight difference is what ian between R and GTi  :popcornsoda:   

121kg's is it not  :P

Any more reasons ? :confused:

Or about the same as a large adult man.

So if you drive the GTI with a big passenger you should change the brakes to those fitted to the .:R.  :popcornsoda:

It boils down to Physics Steve 0.5mv^2 ring a bell.
So your Kinetic Energy = half the mass x velocity squared.

Your brakes convert the KE into heat so in the above equation your mass change only has half the effect so obviously that's why the Golf .:R has the bigger brakes then nothing to do with it's ability to travel faster due to the power increase....  :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2012, 09:33:16 pm »
What a load of mathematical bollox  :signLOL:  :congrats:

I think we need to agree to disagree fella.
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2012, 09:35:31 pm »
I'll agree you're wrong.  :evilgrin:
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2012, 09:39:44 pm »
And you are never wrong..... :stupid:

Whatever
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2012, 10:02:43 pm »
Quote from: Saintsteve on June 07, 2012, 09:39:44 pm
And you are never wrong..... :stupid:

Whatever

Nope never said that, but as long as it's only you that think I'm stupid I'll live with that.
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2012, 10:08:31 pm »
Quote from: Hedge on June 07, 2012, 10:02:43 pm
Quote from: Saintsteve on June 07, 2012, 09:39:44 pm
And you are never wrong..... :stupid:

Whatever

Nope never said that, but as long as it's only you that think I'm stupid I'll live with that.

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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2012, 10:10:16 pm »
 :popcornsoda: :grin:

Thank god for this place when there's nowt on the telly!  :signLOL:
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2012, 10:14:28 pm »
Quote from: jhtrophy on June 07, 2012, 08:32:48 pm

im lost with this thread :signLOL: the golf is a great car stock, nobody is saying it isn't, just that its better with suspension, brakes etc...., as for a mapped one, then frankly the suspension and particulary the brakes need changing with the map, whats a stage 2 plus eddy? 360bhp? thats 130 more than stock, so obvoiusly the car is overwhelmed. this isn't rocket science.   


.... x 2  :happy2:
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2012, 10:20:47 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on June 07, 2012, 06:25:47 pm
^^^^
You forgot the UNIbrace XB, John - Makes a big difference to how the car feels planted.  :evilgrin:

Wow... Listen to you! ;-)

Weight kills performance... Tyres, brakes and suspension all add performance... As does upping the power, but weight is the biggest factor...
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2012, 10:23:10 pm »
Quote from: Greeners on June 07, 2012, 10:10:16 pm
Thank god for this place when there's nowt on the telly!  :signLOL:

Here to entertain,  :star:
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Re: The key to performance motoring is....
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2012, 11:51:08 pm »
I thought that the edition 30 had a crashy suspension as standard. The pss10's were better in every way imaginable. On the softest setting they were more comfortable and less crashy than stock and gave a better feel to the car overall. Add to that uprated ARB's and the difference was superb. I'm not saying the stock suspension was bad, just not good and definitely not optimised! The brakes were "adequate" for a stock ED30 but a mapped ED30 definitely needs more substantial brakes than the OEM ones.....unless you drive Miss Daisy around, and if you drive a mapped ED30 I'd expect 100% of you will at some point drive it faster than a stock one would go at a given point on a road.
As for tyres, a car is only ever as good as the quality of the contact patch between the road and the wheel. Putting cheap/poor tyres on a sports hatch is like putting Ronaldo in wellies!
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