Would you give the deposit back

[MC71]

Always assumed a deposit was non returnable unless stated otherwise. Personally I would return the £250. You have still sold your car (allbeit slightly less than anticipated).

 

[Kalpsn2000]

A deposit is supposed to be to secure the car for purchase and non refundable, so if he pulls out then he should lose his deposit.

Althought the main point here is you asked for £50 and he sent £300, why?

Basically you should keep £50 as thats what you aksed for as a deposit.

[karl210]

hmm i really dont know what to do to be honest, i think i will just contact paypal, tell them the whols story and possibly show them proof of e-mails where he has said he definately wants the car and to tell the other people its sold, and see what they come up with because its going to be upto them no matter what now isnt it. thanks

[Poppa Dom]

Keep the deposit - that's the whole point. It's people like this that can create such a headache selling a car. Interesting slant with PayPal. I would let him dispute with them and see what happens. I would suggest that it would come down on your side. How was the transaction on PP done - goods/services?

Dom

[RedRobin]

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We'll see what happens but I can't help thinking that, whether rightly or wrongly, the mutually agreed £50 should be kept but that the £250 balance will have to be returned. It's an interesting case and will doubtless be strongly influenced by how PayPal behave with their rules.

[AndyS]

I agree with RedRobin above. You asked for £50 deposit so he is at least due £250 back.

Paypal may even grant him the whole £300 refund as there was no written contract on the deposit

Hope you get to keep some of the deposit , sick when people play with you like that..........

[RedRobin]

Hope you get to keep some of the deposit , sick when people play with you like that..........

....Although morally some of the deposit (the requested £50) should indeed be kept, we don't actually know the circumstances which have led to the guy inconveniencing our fellow forumite. There are always two sides to every story.

Without referring back to detail posted in this thread, why didn't Karl immediately respond to the arrival of the extra £250 to the previously agreed £50? He may have shot himself in the foot there.

Unless very wealthy indeed or very dodgy, I don't imagine that the other party is not going to do all he can to get at least £250 back. If PayPal pay him £250 and Karl also keeps the £250, that would be a pretty tidy scam but I'm sure PayPal have got that covered.

[MC71]

If PayPal pay him £250 and Karl also keeps the £250, that would be a pretty tidy scam but I'm sure PayPal have got that covered.

Reckon Paypal have seen that sort of thing tried a few times!!
 

[Tamiyoman]

Bottom line is paypal don't give  a crap, you cannot prove you sent him anything and he opened non receipt case which means that within 7 days the £300 will be returned to the fella and your account will be charged this amount, if you have a Credit card/Debit card linked to it they will charge to it, if you have a bank account they will debit your account.

Sorry mate but your £300 deposit will be going back to the chap  

Never accept paypal for anything other than items your sending with proof of shipping/receipt.

When I sold my MK4 1.8T in November I took paypal as a deposit (£250) but I told him clearly to bring the whole amount in CASH and I would refund the £250 Paypal depsoit in front of him!.

[MC71]

When I sold my MK4 1.8T in November I took paypal as a deposit (£250) but I told him clearly to bring the whole amount in CASH and I would refund the £250 Paypal depsoit in front of him!.

Good idea that!! Saves any problems all round.   

[mbastow]

I had a similar related experience recently.  I put a £100 deposit on a car (private purchase) to put it on hold with purchase subject to an engineers inspection.  Got a receipt for the deposit but the receipt didn't state that the sale was subject to satisfactory engineers report (just agreed verbally).  Sure enough, the engineer inspection (which cost £250) found a number of things wrong - to the tune of £2k to £3k to repair!!  When I explained the report to the seller and the fact that I wasn't going ahead with the purchase she absolutely lost it - saying that she had lost out on a sale, she had to take some time off work etc.  In the end, I couldn't be ar5ed chasing the £100 deposit.  The way I like to look at it is that the £350 it cost me saved me £2k to £3k down the line......

[callis]

Having read through the previous posts, normally a deposit is just that, sometimes you get it back sometimes you dont, but it is normally stated either way ie: a non refundable deposit.

If it was me i would bite the bullet return the £300 and be done with it, last thing i would want is waking up one morning and finding a dent or scratches over my car. He may/maynot know your address but if you google your name its easy to find, esp if you use facebook etc.....