Cloned plates

[sub39h]

a Police officer has to have a good reason to pull you over/detain you/question you. it's called human rights. he is lawfully in his place of work. therefore a representative of the law has no business infringing on his rights or his privacy.

me personally i think it's less trouble just to give your details over to the Police. however i support Horatio's right to refuse, irrespective of what i would do myself. 

[RedRobin]

a Police officer has to have a good reason to pull you over/detain you/question you. it's called human rights.

me personally i think it's less trouble just to give your details over to the Police. however i support Horatio's right to refuse, irrespective of what i would do myself.

....I mostly agree but I think that someone is stupid to refuse to give their details to a Police officer unless they can show justification beyond any doubt.

In this kind of context, bollox to human rights!! Hiding behind current OTT 'human rights' in such cases is interfering with the ability of fair justice being achieved. It's just as bad as lumping shouting at someone in with physical abuse. Human rights legislation has been taken so far that it has become a derivative of political correctness - And absolute bollox!

[Tamiyoman]

Change your car or get a private plate mate, either way the hassle stops!

....How does having a private plate (like mine) help? [I'm not challenging your words but I'm ignorant of how that works... Or being really thick!]

Robin yours is a "Personalised" plate mate, "Private" plates are non date/year identifying 

If the reg is no longer associated with your car you wont be getting pulled as that will not be the car/reg they are looking for 

[Tamiyoman]

i'm with Horatio on this one - if he's done nothing wrong he is not obliged to give the Police his details. would you give your details to a random person just because they asked for them? in essence it's no different.


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....It wasn't a random person, it was (as we are told) a Policeman and a Policeman is an officer and representative of the law. So, I would always willingly give my details to a Policeman and especially if I was innocent of what was being investigated. If I wasn't innocent I would give my details and then insist on legal representation to take it any further.

Horatio has already stated that he has a bad attitude and prejudice towards the Police, and even if he has had bad experiences he shows a lack of broadmindedness to then tar them all with the same brush. You may as well say that just because you have been badly cut up by a GTI driver, that all GTI drivers are like that. However, in the case of poorly driven chavvily modified cars the prejudice is at least initially justified. You don't have to be a Policeman to recognise someone's driving behaviour.
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The Police should only be asking details from people who are suspected of doing something wrong!, they have absolutely no right to be asking an honest person doing his job for their details!, what's next police taking everyones finger prints and DNA "Just in Case", they may as well fit a tracker to my car and install CCTV INSIDE my home "Just in case", I myself would point blank refuse too unless I had done something wrong (e.g alleged traffic offense)

[Tamiyoman]

a Police officer has to have a good reason to pull you over/detain you/question you. it's called human rights.

me personally i think it's less trouble just to give your details over to the Police. however i support Horatio's right to refuse, irrespective of what i would do myself.

....I mostly agree but I think that someone is stupid to refuse to give their details to a Police officer unless they can show justification beyond any doubt.

Does that not also make the copper stupid for asking for his details without cause?

In this kind of context, bollox to human rights!! Hiding behind current OTT 'human rights' in such cases is interfering with the ability of fair justice being achieved. It's just as bad as lumping shouting at someone in with physical abuse. Human rights legislation has been taken so far that it has become a derivative of political correctness - And absolute bollox!

Human rights is only there to protect the unfortunate, sad to say others use it to their advantage (Like that hook handed terrorist)

[stealthwolf]

You mean Captain Hook? Yep he was always terrorising neverland.

As for the police, it always depend on their attitude but TBH I've not had any major issues with them. I once got pulled over after he thought I left the petrol station too quickly. He probably thought I spotted him and tried to drive away. Cus big ass police van following a little fiesta through uni campus. Got pulled at the top of the road I lived on. Wanted me to produce my documents at the local station. When I asked whether he could follow me home, he happily obliged and I could show him my docs without having to faff around with producers.

[Horatio]

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[Tamiyoman]

You mean Captain Hook? Yep he was always terrorising neverland.

As for the police, it always depend on their attitude but TBH I've not had any major issues with them. I once got pulled over after he thought I left the petrol station too quickly. He probably thought I spotted him and tried to drive away. Cus big ass police van following a little fiesta through uni campus. Got pulled at the top of the road I lived on. Wanted me to produce my documents at the local station. When I asked whether he could follow me home, he happily obliged and I could show him my docs without having to faff around with producers.

Err no, Peter pan sorted him out already, was referring to Abu Hamza AKA Mr Jihad

[Dp_Ed30]

Update.

Just returned from the police station after being dragged out of bed at 6 am but the same 9 coppers.

Long and short of it I'm bailed until the 11th while they investigate.

Police have no evidence apart from a 3 line phone report, the dickhead was meant to come in to give a statement today but didn't show.

Turns out he claims to have been standing on the road whe I pulled up and my passengers got out and robbed him for his £50k Rolex and £50k chain


Anyway f*ck leaving this in the hands of the local bacon, I am going mac Taylor on the situation to collect as much evidence as I can. Already have a bank statement showing my filling my car with tecos finest 5 mins before the claimed robbery and have been promised some CCTV evidence from the local carpet shop on me heading home 2 mins after.

Fingers crossed

[JackG]

It's wrong that something that has nothing to do with you can cause such a problem with your life  but I suppose there just doing there job

[richtung]

i feel for the OP and hope he keeps faith in the system and this will all be sorted out shortly.

The police are just doing their jobs and lets be honest... if the crime had been commited against  us or our loved ones, we'd  hope the police would leave no stone unturned in catching the perps..

i think the police are sometimes unjustly slagged off..

[Dp_Ed30]

i feel for the OP and hope he keeps faith in the system and this will all be sorted out shortly.

The police are just doing their jobs and lets be honest... if the crime had been commited against  us or our loved ones, we'd  hope the police would leave no stone unturned in catching the perps..

i think the police are sometimes unjustly slagged off..

No the police are a bunch of arseholes, I was assaulted in my own home this morning and treated like a criminal.

I am going to sue the police to the fully extent of the law,

[JackG]

If they have treated you like sh*t this morning when coming into your house that's not on 
Police HAVE to be able to justify there actions, innocent until proven guilty, if they cannot justify they way they treated you this morning then they have some explaining to do, I work on the door at weekends and we have to be able to justify our actions, same way the police do, if you were thought of as a threat or you did show signs of aggression then certain actions are needed to be taken...BUT it has to able to be justified, If I can't justify dragging someone out by there head then I will loose my door badge, police often use there powers in a way they shouldn't....and that's why there disliked

[garrardrj]

This can have detrimental effect for your future. It may effect wheather you can get credit it or not, possibly a job. Similar thing happened to friends brother when i was at school. He lost his job. He was a police officer. Theyre quite good at putting 2 and 2 together to get 5 potatoe. Take the fight to them and claim compensation. Take at least a week of work

IT WILL NOT EFFECT YOUR CREDIT AND NEITHER WILL IT EFFECT YOUR JOB PROSPECTS !

If you are innocent then it will have no effect. An armed job will be investigated by the best the police staff they have.

Don't worry...easier said than done though

[garrardrj]

a Police officer has to have a good reason to pull you over/detain you/question you. it's called human rights. he is lawfully in his place of work. therefore a representative of the law has no business infringing on his rights or his privacy.

me personally i think it's less trouble just to give your details over to the Police. however i support Horatio's right to refuse, irrespective of what i would do myself. 

Not correct and to refuse details only antagonises someone who is only doing what they get paid to do and in most cases   not giving details to a police officer could get you arrested..............look it up