Cloned plates

[RedRobin]

So, where do you think the policemans authority is derived from?

....Derived from laws which are determined by state government. Police may in part serve to the benefit of common people, and indeed laws are generically designed in an attempt to serve people's best interests, but the Police are not servants of the populus as is popularly believed. The authority is derived from the State. Hence Police vs People in civil riots etc. They may be further backed up by military services and specialist units.

The democratic process (in the UK) determines what is written as law.

[I am away in the car (testing UNIbraces) for a couple of days so can't respond further yet]  

[RedRobin]

If you've got nothing to hide, why try...

....Exactly!! It's really that simple. However, if you have a bad attitude towards the Police it's an opportunity to feel you are scoring points against them - Though a somewhat futile and pathetic opportunity.

If you disagree with a law it's pointless taking it out on those who do the job of upholding the law. In my many decades of roaming this planet I have occasionally broken the law and done so knowingly, and I also have had friends who are known criminals, but I still have a great respect for the Police and recognise all the many good things they do. So I always cooperate, particularly when a suspect in a very nasty murder investigation (Eve Stratford).

[sub39h]

If you've got nothing to hide, why try...

....Exactly!! It's really that simple. However, if you have a bad attitude towards the Police it's an opportunity to feel you are scoring points against them - Though a somewhat futile and pathetic opportunity.

If you disagree with a law it's pointless taking it out on those who do the job of upholding the law. In my many decades of roaming this planet I have occasionally broken the law and done so knowingly, and I also have had friends who are known criminals, but I still have a great respect for the Police and recognise all the many good things they do. So I always cooperate, particularly when a suspect in a very nasty murder investigation (Eve Stratford).

yes if you've got nothing to hide then i agree it shouldn't be a problem

but the flip side of the coin is if you've done nothing wrong the police shouldn't be bothering you

[Top Cat]

These threads always make me laugh.   
When someone posts a thread up about little runts breaking into our homes, scaring our families while taking the keys to the car, we get 5 pages of thats terrible but the police wont do anything pal there too busy pulling us for our illegal plates. 
I wholeheartedly agree with Robin's assessment of what is going on in this thread.   

If you've got nothing to hide, why try...

....Exactly!! It's really that simple. However, if you have a bad attitude towards the Police it's an opportunity to feel you are scoring points against them - Though a somewhat futile and pathetic opportunity.

If you disagree with a law it's pointless taking it out on those who do the job of upholding the law. In my many decades of roaming this planet I have occasionally broken the law and done so knowingly, and I also have had friends who are known criminals, but I still have a great respect for the Police and recognise all the many good things they do. So I always cooperate, particularly when a suspect in a very nasty murder investigation (Eve Stratford).

yes if you've got nothing to hide then i agree it shouldn't be a problem

but the flip side of the coin is if you've done nothing wrong the police shouldn't be bothering you

I know you do long hours in A&E but have you not mixed with modern society lately. How are the police going to distinguish between criminals and humans. The criminals don't wear a hat saying i am a criminal or run round with a bag saying SWAG on it.
 It is unfortunate and uncomfortable for those who get caught up with crime prevention but  for me it is a small price to pay if it means the police can possibly catch some of the scum who live within our society.
And as for DP_ED30 i can imagine being shocked and slightly bewildered by the events, but in my opinion your attitude to this event stinks. Why would you need to go diving for your phone as you say, if you know it is all just a mistake, then why not just relax and let the process run it's course.
And as for those in this thread who say i would not assist the police by giving them my details. Then as far as i am concerned you have far to high an opinion of yourself. Do you really think you are to important to be bothered  by our Police force. Tut tut tut. 

[n13cah]

Well put Top Cat.

[Hedge]

TC for PM. 

[sub39h]

If you've got nothing to hide, why try...

....Exactly!! It's really that simple. However, if you have a bad attitude towards the Police it's an opportunity to feel you are scoring points against them - Though a somewhat futile and pathetic opportunity.

If you disagree with a law it's pointless taking it out on those who do the job of upholding the law. In my many decades of roaming this planet I have occasionally broken the law and done so knowingly, and I also have had friends who are known criminals, but I still have a great respect for the Police and recognise all the many good things they do. So I always cooperate, particularly when a suspect in a very nasty murder investigation (Eve Stratford).

yes if you've got nothing to hide then i agree it shouldn't be a problem

but the flip side of the coin is if you've done nothing wrong the police shouldn't be bothering you

I know you do long hours in A&E but have you not mixed with modern society lately. How are the police going to distinguish between criminals and humans. The criminals don't wear a hat saying i am a criminal or run round with a bag saying SWAG on it.
 It is unfortunate and uncomfortable for those who get caught up with crime prevention but  for me it is a small price to pay if it means the police can possibly catch some of the scum who live within our society.
And as for DP_ED30 i can imagine being shocked and slightly bewildered by the events, but in my opinion your attitude to this event stinks. Why would you need to go diving for your phone as you say, if you know it is all just a mistake, then why not just relax and let the process run it's course.
And as for those in this thread who say i would not assist the police by giving them my details. Then as far as i am concerned you have far to high an opinion of yourself. Do you really think you are to important to be bothered  by our Police force. Tut tut tut. 

don't work in A&E anymore lol. this boils down to the circumstances in Horatio's story where it was clearly demonstrable he was doing nothing wrong, and was still asked for his details. i respect his right not to give them.

as i've said multiple times, it's easier to hand your details over if you've got nothing to hide - and this would be the course of action i would take. but we'll have to agree to disagree on supporting people's rights to refuse their details if they've done nothing wrong.

[E30Dom]

Surely it's better to be co-operative with the police, making the whole thing quicker to resolve, well this is always the approach I've had with them...

It's always the one on police, camera, action, kicking off that head of to the nick...

[sub39h]

Surely it's better to be co-operative with the police, making the whole thing quicker to resolve, well this is always the approach I've had with them...

It's always the one on police, camera, action, kicking off that head of to the nick...

i don't disagree with you - and i never suggested being rude to a police officer.

but if you were in your place of work, and your security guard has acknowledged you're there lawfully why should you have to give your details over? if you want to because it's easier that's fine. if you refuse because you've done nothing wrong i don't see anything the matter with that either personally.

[garrardrj]

TC for PM. 

or Chief Inspector of Constabulary to replace the **** they have installed called Tom Winsor.

[mrbubba]

If you've got nothing to hide, why try...

....Exactly!! It's really that simple. However, if you have a bad attitude towards the Police it's an opportunity to feel you are scoring points against them - Though a somewhat futile and pathetic opportunity.

If you disagree with a law it's pointless taking it out on those who do the job of upholding the law. In my many decades of roaming this planet I have occasionally broken the law and done so knowingly, and I also have had friends who are known criminals, but I still have a great respect for the Police and recognise all the many good things they do. So I always cooperate, particularly when a suspect in a very nasty murder investigation (Eve Stratford).

yes if you've got nothing to hide then i agree it shouldn't be a problem

but the flip side of the coin is if you've done nothing wrong the police shouldn't be bothering you

The thing is, how do we know that you've done nothing wrong until we speak to you? Most people I deal with day to day lie through their teeth to me. How do I know you're any different? If I've stopped you then I'm investigating something and if I require your details, you have two options and one of them involves a trip to custody.

It won't effect 90% of people so shouldn't be a problem, unless you regularly find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time .....

If you're driving a car then its a different story :D and know we can't just get it from ANPR etc etc.

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[garrardrj]

Surely it's better to be co-operative with the police, making the whole thing quicker to resolve, well this is always the approach I've had with them...

It's always the one on police, camera, action, kicking off that head of to the nick...

i don't disagree with you - and i never suggested being rude to a police officer.

but if you were in your place of work, and your security guard has acknowledged you're there lawfully why should you have to give your details over? if you want to because it's easier that's fine. if you refuse because you've done nothing wrong i don't see anything the matter with that either personally.

Becasue every incident attended by Officers is recorded on a computer and if the report is "burglary" or "suspects on premises" would you  expect the officer to write up an accurate report with the name of the people found on the premises that was alegedly being burgled ? If a subsequent enquiry a few days later was made into the incident , say if a computer was found to be stolen the further investigation would look into the  previous incident to perhaps find a connection to the theft of the computer. Hence the need to have all the details of the initial incident..... this is caused by too many members of the public wanting to criticise the police..................so in short the public have caused this to happen and should try to understand.