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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2012, 08:17:45 pm »
well i've found a post on another forum from T_T that contradicts what i say. there's no doubt T_T is a valuable and knowledgable member of the forums, but tbh most of the stuff i read smacks "alarmist" to me

put it this way - 99% of people who drive a DSG will not know it's any different to any other automatic. if VAG designed a gearbox that looks to the untrained eye like a torque-converter auto gearbox but needed driving differently or it'd wear it's clutch packs out they would have designed it badly and gearboxes would be failing left, right and centre and they aren't.

i don't for a second think that VAG engineers are that absent minded, so i'm happy leaving it in D when i come to a stop in traffic. if i'm stopping long enough to consider putting in it N i'd turn the car off anyway.

the only issue i have with this is that at night time you dazzle the driver behind you with your brake lights, but if you use the handbrake the car strains against it for a second before settling down and i don't like that either. (that is also proof to me that the car dips the clutch when stopping - because you can feel it doing it if you leave it in D and put the handbrake on.)

i'd never coast in N in any car lol.

am i right in thinking you leave the car in "D" and put the handbrake on rather than your foot brake?

no that's what i'm saying - i don't use the handbrake. i know in terms of rear end shuting and courtesy to drivers behind me it's not the best practice, but on my car at least when you're stationary and you put the handbrake on the car strains against it for a few seconds before settling down.

anyhow i've read a bit more of what T_T has written on that other forum and he's said that apparently it's ok to leave it in D for "short periods" as this is what VAG advise - but no mention as to what duration a "short period" is.

here's the thread:

http://www.r32oc.com/general-chat/11099-how-use-dsg-gearbox.html

the long and short of it is that i don't think rich's driving style has anything to do with the symptoms he's experiencing which, to me, sounds like a mechatronics fault. if his car is around '07 then i believe he's in the right age band for the faulty batch that went out and failed.

Wow, that's an interesting thread!!!

I will have to drop it into 'N' now every time I'm in traffic or the lights - but living in London, won't I wear out the DSG box from all the changes??   :surprised:
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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2012, 09:01:42 pm »
Check dsg oil level as well, did see a car once that had a dsg oil leak as the dealer that did the dsg oil change forgot to re-install the little tube under the drain plug and the sump nut leaked, less oil = more heat.

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2012, 12:21:54 am »
Thanks for all the responses.

On my way back home tonight (100miles) the car behaved itself... no issues with the 'box at all.  :stupid:

Ill see what the scan says at the weekend.  :happy2:

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2012, 12:21:49 pm »
Take it to VAG specialists  :wink:

Yes... You really must give me the number of that place in harrow wealdstone....

NOT!!!!!!!

Just google it  :stupid:

I dont need to... i know where it is. I lived in harrow for 4 years  :wink:

Yeah right keep the act to yourself thanks

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2012, 12:54:35 pm »
Whoaah there kids, calm down

Sorry not had any symptoms the same, drove 220 mile trip yesterday and it averaged 25-28c and no issues to report, steady A roads, Motorways and crawling along in traffic 2.5hrs each way  :sad1:, wish Norfolk had motorways!


I hope it was just a one off glitch Tamiyoman, been out today and no problems at all.

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 01:00:07 pm »
Whoaah there kids, calm down

Sorry not had any symptoms the same, drove 220 mile trip yesterday and it averaged 25-28c and no issues to report, steady A roads, Motorways and crawling along in traffic 2.5hrs each way  :sad1:, wish Norfolk had motorways!


I hope it was just a one off glitch Tamiyoman, been out today and no problems at all.

Im in Norwich in a couple of weeks....  :happy2:

Yes hopefully it was a one off, was over at R-Tech yesterday and they mentioned you were there not long back, bit of a trek acroos country for me but worth it  :happy2:

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 01:05:01 pm »
Yes i was there late last year, he did a dyno run for me. What nick doesnt know about the 1.8T and 2.0TFSI engine isnt worth knowing.  :happy2:

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2012, 01:29:41 pm »
Yes i was there late last year, he did a dyno run for me. What nick doesnt know about the 1.8T and 2.0TFSI engine isnt worth knowing.  :happy2:

Yup, would agree with that, he baffled with witchcraft science  :grin:
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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2012, 09:00:22 pm »
Yes i was there late last year, he did a dyno run for me. What nick doesnt know about the 1.8T and 2.0TFSI engine isnt worth knowing.  :happy2:

Yup, would agree with that, he baffled with witchcraft science  :grin:

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2012, 09:12:14 pm »
I swear the owner's manual tells you the dos/donts of the DSG 'box?

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2012, 08:55:38 pm »
Rich when you get it on cds set the measuring blocks for the temperature and pressure when held in d on the brakes the temp at the clutch pack it shoots up.

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2012, 08:57:53 pm »
Rich when you get it on cds set the measuring blocks for the temperature and pressure when held in d on the brakes the temp at the clutch pack it shoots up.

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Do you have any Polar FIS+ knocking around mate?  :smiley:

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2012, 09:32:13 pm »
Unfortunately not rich  :ashamed:

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Re: DSG + hot weather = :-(
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2012, 08:54:15 pm »
could be due oil and filter change if your cars done 40k and every 40k after that