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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2012, 07:50:51 am »
Let's not get too giddy, talk of 480BHP is theoretical at best, I'd be happy if that was 10% out.

That would still be stage 2+ TTRS output on your edition 30.

Quick look on autotrader gets me a 2010 KO4 TTS for £18000 nearest TTRS is £10k more

The soundtrack issue could be sorted with a milly or the boys at BCS

TTS Chassis is the same as the TTRS except brakes which aren't great anyway.

Have LOBA just made TTRS tuning defunct?

Edit.....

Is there a map for the DSG on a TTRS?

« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 08:17:23 am by DaveB1970 »

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #91 on: July 01, 2012, 08:24:33 am »
Still don't think you could beat the 5 cylinder warble Dave!....not for my money anyways!

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #92 on: July 01, 2012, 09:28:20 am »
Indeed but id rather keep the 10k!

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #93 on: July 01, 2012, 09:31:12 am »
Get him to put it onto a decent set of rollers though!!!  Wander if he will beat 400hp on a set of dynodynamics.  From what i have seen on my own and other people cars MAHA reads 15-20Hp higher than dynodynamics rollers

Dyno figures drive me nuts.  I Got 341 on DynoDynamics and 346 on Maha  :confused:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #94 on: July 01, 2012, 11:33:58 am »

Dyno figures drive me nuts.  I Got 341 on DynoDynamics and 346 on Maha  :confused:


....But a 5 bhp difference is nothing! Rollers and atmospherics etc are different everyday. The numbers are only a ballpark guide.


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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #95 on: July 01, 2012, 11:36:31 am »

Dyno figures drive me nuts.  I Got 341 on DynoDynamics and 346 on Maha  :confused:


....But a 5 bhp difference is nothing! Rollers and atmospherics etc are different everyday. The numbers are only a ballpark guide.

5hp is nothing, yet there are meant to be considerable differences between the 2 dynos  :confused:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #96 on: July 01, 2012, 11:41:30 am »

Dyno figures drive me nuts.  I Got 341 on DynoDynamics and 346 on Maha  :confused:


....But a 5 bhp difference is nothing! Rollers and atmospherics etc are different everyday. The numbers are only a ballpark guide.


5hp is nothing, yet there are meant to be considerable differences between the 2 dynos  :confused:


....Which is why it's more useful to use the same rollers and same operator if making comparisons (partly why i use JKM). No reason why you can't consistently use more than one though - In other words, regularly use Dyno-Dynamics and also Maha, and then compare Maha only with Maha and D-D only with D-D.


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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #97 on: July 01, 2012, 11:51:01 am »

Engine out & bench dyno  :laugh:

Dont hear much about hub Dynos, I have access to one.  Anyone any experience?

So many variables in both Dyno and road / track testing

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #98 on: July 01, 2012, 11:57:24 am »
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Ultimately the bottom line is all about driveability, not willy waving or bragging in the pub.

Performance modding is a subject of diminishing returns and the further you go the more there is then another component which needs modding to work properly.

If you have deep pockets then it doesn't matter.


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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #99 on: July 01, 2012, 12:19:03 pm »
Indeed Robin, been speaking to LOBA this morning over another matter, they're not expecting anybody to go around at max chat with this thing, they're obviously interested in what it will do if pushed if only to compare real world figures to what the designers say it should theoretically push.

As with the TTRS turbos and the Porsche / RS4 turbos with which they made their name in Germany, they'll be expecting customers to turn it down and have über good driving manners knowing they can have headline figures at the load of a map

It's one exciting prospect....it's making me look at S3s!

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #100 on: July 01, 2012, 02:41:19 pm »
Indeed but id rather keep the 10k!

Err yees true.

Not that I am in the market for said TTRS or even a TTS;  or even these lovely Loba turbos :sad1:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #101 on: July 01, 2012, 04:52:38 pm »
I had my stage 2 eddy set up on revo on a hub dyno.

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #102 on: July 01, 2012, 05:19:55 pm »
3k for a bolt on? can get a GTX turbo & fancy manifold for that. Dont get me wrong I like the idea of the turbo but if its near that price you might aswell go big turbo with tub manifold.

I know steve pretty well now as hes worked on my car for over 2 years. Am going to pop up & have a chat but the next thing for mine will be brakes off Dave B before anything else happens
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #103 on: July 01, 2012, 05:39:12 pm »
Let's not get too giddy, talk of 480BHP is theoretical at best, I'd be happy if that was 10% out.

That would still be stage 2+ TTRS output on your edition 30.

Quick look on autotrader gets me a 2010 KO4 TTS for £18000 nearest TTRS is £10k more

The soundtrack issue could be sorted with a milly or the boys at BCS

TTS Chassis is the same as the TTRS except brakes which aren't great anyway.


Still don't think you could beat the 5 cylinder warble Dave!....not for my money anyways!

Ditto on that one..  :happy2:

Indeed but id rather keep the 10k!

But that's before you pay out for the hybrid and any other parts that are needed inc labour.. That would make a huge dint in your 10k and you would be driving round in car that's on the limit of it's internals. This is before you take into account the residuals..

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #104 on: July 01, 2012, 06:10:45 pm »
They must be using the giac map still then as the revo doesn't support the larger maf.

If that's the case then the maf readings would be scaled for the giac map and will be correct.

I'll double check tomorrow, but I'm sure Steve said that they were moving away from the GIAC map.  :smiley:

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