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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #210 on: July 08, 2012, 10:31:50 pm »
I'll be popping down to Statllers on Tuesday for a play in their ED30.  :driver:
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #211 on: July 08, 2012, 10:51:34 pm »
There talk of a very heavily instrumented stripped out car for development purposes, bit of a showcase for me with the brakes, LOBA for the power and a project for ADS in tuning and datalogging everything from your normal tuning data through to suspension travel and G levels.



There some clever kit out in the US which as opposed to giving real time telemetry will dump each lap to a trackside transponder.

Im interested in these IR heat sensors which are double accurate both for braking and for measuring tyre temps



The will is there just not the money at the mo!

Plan is to empirically test our own stuff and maybe hire the car out to other organisations to test their own kit and document the results. Lots of crap kit out there, should work well got some FIA licensed drivers within group and friendly to do some testing

In addition with the LOBA turbo it'll be a frickin hoot on track days and we can give sensible customers a go in a 450+ BHP Quattro car just for the crack....

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #212 on: July 08, 2012, 10:55:10 pm »
I'll be popping down to Statllers on Tuesday for a play in their ED30.  :driver:

Are you now Mr H? suppose I'd better make sure its tanked up then ?
Would you be so kind as to bring my V-box back aswell plz ?  got some logging to do now hah  :laugh:

So come on then If you fellas don't buy an R soon, suppose I'll have too,
We need to knock Stertman 's car off the top 1/4 mile spot (nice fellas that they are :happy2:)

Let's try and prove us Brits are good for something At least!!!

As John and a few others know We are building a stripped DSG 4WD big power car for next years sprints
Should be good fun to see what this kind of set up can do when really pushed extreme etc

I checked the data logs with the old Hybrid John 303.4 maxed out @ 7350





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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #213 on: July 09, 2012, 02:45:44 pm »
Oh, yes please Steve. Thought you may pop on here again. :driver:

If you want me to do some Performance box testing, I'm available at zero cost :evilgrin:
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #214 on: July 09, 2012, 07:29:36 pm »
As there is now talk of numbers produced by this turbo on Stattlers rollers . . . . . what sort of bhp does a strong K04 stg 2+ usually give on these rollers?
Im sure i have seen some dyno printouts of 380bhp +.

Just so we know where we are splodging
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #215 on: July 09, 2012, 10:06:30 pm »
As there is now talk of numbers produced by this turbo on Stattlers rollers . . . . . what sort of bhp does a strong K04 stg 2+ usually give on these rollers?
Im sure i have seen some dyno printouts of 380bhp +.

Just so we know where we are splodging

I've never had a Revo 2+ make over 360 on my road,  Tell you what though, bit of octane booster and trickery with the Timing settings, back the boost off a little on fresh plugs & a nice cool day and I reckon I could get it up around there give or take! Got a few in next week I'll give it a whirl if you want ? :smiley:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #216 on: July 09, 2012, 10:07:53 pm »

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #217 on: July 09, 2012, 10:20:19 pm »

 :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:

Hah Cheeky Micky!   :booty:

Have you got your MFD clocks sorted yet? I have an idea, bit complex but gets you what you want in the long run.
I'll give you a tink tomoz

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #218 on: July 09, 2012, 10:21:33 pm »

 :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:

Hah Cheeky Micky!   :booty:

Have you got your MFD clocks sorted yet? I have an idea, bit complex but gets you what you want in the long run.
I'll give you a tink tomoz

 :happy2:  Complex  :confused: 

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #219 on: July 09, 2012, 10:24:01 pm »

 :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:

Hah Cheeky Micky!   :booty:

Have you got your MFD clocks sorted yet? I have an idea, bit complex but gets you what you want in the long run.
I'll give you a tink tomoz

My idea is ! Infact it's that complex I don't understand how its going to work anymore hmm ??   :stupid:

 :happy2:  Complex  :confused: 

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #220 on: July 09, 2012, 11:16:28 pm »
Gojinder's Cupra got approx 390bhp when he switched from Revo to GIAC. The print out was in the Dyno thread on here.

Thats the only print out i have seen from your rollers mind

Its good that the average is sub 360bhp though as this makes the LOba figures impressive.
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #221 on: July 09, 2012, 11:34:11 pm »
Gojinder's Cupra got approx 390bhp when he switched from Revo to GIAC. The print out was in the Dyno thread on here.

Thats the only print out i have seen from your rollers mind

Oh sorry I thought you meant  Revo not  Giac  :happy2:
TBH It's that long since I tuned Gojinders I can't remember the numbers it made but I can look them up quite easily
(but freaky actually ive not heard from him for ages but he's in soon for running issues ??)
I don't think it ever made 390hp, but I could be wrong had lots of sleeps and a big crash since then
The GIAC extreme + cars always made around 377's on octane booster with a race file
Dam Strong at the bottom end though
I'll check tomoz

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #222 on: July 09, 2012, 11:48:01 pm »
Yeah i bought his SPS switch when he switched  :driver:

I remember being shocked by his results being so good at the time.
I was'nt trying to say the rollers read high, just getting a good idea of what they would measure a strong k04 2+ at. As a referance point if you like.

There's a few on here convinced that if your getting over 330 the rollers are broke. (JKM COUGH COUGH)
On SeatCupra.net theres a few that think they have 400amdbhp  :signLOL:
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #223 on: July 10, 2012, 12:02:12 am »


Its good that the average is sub 360bhp though as this makes the LOba figures impressive.
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Sometimes especially with the GIAC cars we see big big power when freshly mapped
They normally settle after about 25-50 miles and aren't so aggressive and powerful after that
I think Garrett (GIAC's CEO) leaves quite a bit of safety in the ecu flash so it will learn to drop the aggressive ignition etc after the ecu starts to adapt
Like I said I've got a good few stg2+ cars in next week with good hardware and plenty of life left in em
I'll roll them back to back and overlay the graphs if poss
The Loba 4 should be a really cracking upgrade once it's tuned correctly.
were still finding more power in the tune as we go on
I would imagine soon we can reach the 450 without quite as much boost
It's early days yet.
All rollers read different, I know mines probably middle of the road. We see 380 WHP with the loba, most of the dyno's read similar WHP it's the calculation for the transmission loss that makes the big difference

BTW I know your not digging, I love tuning these things. It's like playtime every day at work  :laugh:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #224 on: July 10, 2012, 09:57:37 am »
I need my cooler and map sorting dude, i'd then like to get mine on the rollers and see what the old girl is churning out.  :happy2: