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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #300 on: July 21, 2012, 10:25:07 pm »
I've probably missed it earlier in the thread but what's it based on?

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #301 on: July 21, 2012, 10:26:07 pm »
I've probably missed it earlier in the thread but what's it based on?

Standard K04 with Loba modified inducer/exducer compressor wheels I think!

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #302 on: July 21, 2012, 10:35:50 pm »
I've probably missed it earlier in the thread but what's it based on?

Standard K04 with Loba modified inducer/exducer compressor wheels I think!

No, the specs are MUCH more impressive than that. It is more of a "Frankenstein" turbo than a hybrid KO4 turbo. Also has work done on the manifold too. I could tell you, but then Steve at Statllers would have to kill me! :laugh:
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #303 on: July 21, 2012, 10:38:59 pm »
Is it not a trifle expensive for a hybrid though?

It's not cheap when u get to big bhp territory! Just the way things are!  :signLOL:

Nail on the head, I suppose this is the next stage really for a platform that basically cannot be beaten by anything more modern or three times the price, the Golf 5 based cars are IMHO that good even still today. (and I've driven some very heavy metal today indeed)

The Loba 4x unit is made from two very expensive turbo's that's the problem, its a good unit though, the compressor map is awesome.

We played with the torque limiters for the extra power here that's all.
We will be ignition fine tuning next week for use with the plasma coils as they recover way too fast and actually cause the ecu to pull timing back at the top thing is, the fueling trims, timing and intake temps are scarily stable throughout the pulls even with the dyno brakes set to 40%  
I'll post some dyno video's next week for fun, this sounds like all hell let loose on the rollers :laugh:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #304 on: July 21, 2012, 10:43:52 pm »
Ahh ok.... when I hear Hybrid, i think CR or Turbo Dynamics. Obviously this is in a different ball park altogether, hence the figures.  :happy2:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #305 on: July 21, 2012, 10:52:37 pm »
Well, Statllers have sent me a graph of the performance of their ED30 with the Loba L04XX on after some more tuning.

455bhp (400whp) and over 400lbft. :surprised:



only 400? that's 542NM right? I thought it would be higher as the K04 can reach 520NM  :confused:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #306 on: July 21, 2012, 10:54:52 pm »
Well, Statllers have sent me a graph of the performance of their ED30 with the Loba L04XX on after some more tuning.

455bhp (400whp) and over 400lbft. :surprised:

Is this on a standard DSG box?  :surprised:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #307 on: July 21, 2012, 10:59:59 pm »

only 400? that's 542NM right? I thought it would be higher as the K04 can reach 520NM  :confused:

But can it hold like the LO4xx one to produce top end bhp?? That's the difference...it's not peaked at 520nm...it's flat for a few k rpm at that level!  :happy2:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #308 on: July 21, 2012, 11:02:11 pm »
WHP=Wheel Horse Power.

That is pretty good.

Don't confuse with Flywheel power which is probably what you are thinking of?

Its more in the good ole USA I believe.

Well, Statllers have sent me a graph of the performance of their ED30 with the Loba L04XX on after some more tuning.

455bhp (400whp) and over 400lbft. :surprised:



only 400? that's 542NM right? I thought it would be higher as the K04 can reach 520NM  :confused:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #309 on: July 21, 2012, 11:11:29 pm »
Anyone else got this turbo yet?

Seems to die off at 6.2k.  Have you got a boost plot Steve?

Still interested in this turbo but can't justify spending the money that's being asked, for a development turbo.
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #310 on: July 21, 2012, 11:12:20 pm »
The torque is capped in the map hence the flat curve so not to kill the stock clutches in the box, we have a great map on this box and have spent lots of time with clutch pressure demand, a bone stock K04 will surge to 400ftlbs on out of control overboost but never sustain torque like this, they drop off instantly, I can overlay graphs next week to show everyone
We could probably squeeze 450ft lbs with this but then we are totally missing the point of the whole excersise which is drivability and component life
If massive power is what an individual wants then there's lots of options as we all know but you'll need a big wallet and built motor (& gearbox)  :smiley:
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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #311 on: July 21, 2012, 11:17:14 pm »
Alex what does your Hybrid KO4 MAF at?

Anyone else got this turbo yet?

Seems to die off at 6.2k.  Have you got a boost plot Steve?

Still interested in this turbo but can't justify spending the money that's being asked, for a development turbo.

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #312 on: July 21, 2012, 11:23:35 pm »
Anyone else got this turbo yet?

Seems to die off at 6.2k.  Have you got a boost plot Steve?

Still interested in this turbo but can't justify spending the money that's being asked, for a development turbo.

We suspect its the plasma's AL, the car drives much smoother with them but it kills the advance right at the top, as we've already discussed they recover way to quickly at high Rpm
We might yet have to drop some ignition out of the top end to bring the power back in, we'll see next week
I'm custom tuning next week for this problem, just waiting for the byteshooter to be repaired first
Yes mate they are a pretty penny indeed but if you saw one up close I'm sure you'd have to have it

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #313 on: July 22, 2012, 09:18:22 am »
Anyone else got this turbo yet?

Seems to die off at 6.2k.  Have you got a boost plot Steve?

Still interested in this turbo but can't justify spending the money that's being asked, for a development turbo.

We suspect its the plasma's AL, the car drives much smoother with them but it kills the advance right at the top, as we've already discussed they recover way to quickly at high Rpm
We might yet have to drop some ignition out of the top end to bring the power back in, we'll see next week
I'm custom tuning next week for this problem, just waiting for the byteshooter to be repaired first
Yes mate they are a pretty penny indeed but if you saw one up close I'm sure you'd have to have it

HI, are you ivolved in the REVO software on this? or have i missed out on this info in this tread?
As i hope to get one of these and get some REVO SW for it i follow this closely  :drinking:

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Re: LOBA LO4XX Hybrid K04 Turbo
« Reply #314 on: July 22, 2012, 09:23:51 am »
Very doubtful that Revo will do software for this.
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