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Brakes
« on: July 17, 2012, 12:29:41 pm »
Hi I'm after some help.

I have a completely standard Gti.  I need to chage the brakes all round.  I'm also going to get the brake fluid changed as it hasn't been done for a while.  Is there an upgrade in brake pads I can get as I don't rate the standard setup.  I would only be looking at pads not complete caliper setups.  The car is only used as a daily drive and not going to be used on track. 

Any help would be greatly received.

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Re: Brakes
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 03:51:43 pm »
I'd go for braided lines, ATE Blue brake fluid and some DS2500 pads. These 3 should see you right.

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Re: Brakes
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 04:13:51 pm »
I'd go for braided lines, ATE Blue brake fluid and some DS2500 pads. These 3 should see you right.

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How much are these pads and is there a recommended cheapest supplier?
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Re: Brakes
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 04:27:46 pm »

For pads and hoses I'd recommend the in house brake wizard DaveB

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Re: Brakes
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 11:34:59 pm »
DS2500 aren't road legal and if you never track the car they are overdone.


The best street parts for reasonable money:  :happy2:

- Brembo or Ate PowerDisc rotors
- Ferodo DS Performance
- Tyrol Sport caliper bushings
- Ate SuperBlue fluid


There are even better discs like Tarox Zero and better pads like Endless MX72,
but for street only you won't need really these.  :wink: All pads that beat the
DS Performance are not road legal (MX72, DS2500, RS4-2 etc.).

If you rate low dust over bite you might get Ate Ceramic pads instead. Stay
away from EBC pads. They're crap.
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Re: Brakes
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 11:43:29 pm »

DS2500 aren't road legal and if you never track the car they are overdone.


....I'd just like to say that they are road legal if supplied with a brake kit designed with them - AP Racing BBK, for example. However, they now produce their own pads for their kits.


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Re: Brakes
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2012, 07:01:14 am »
Cheers for all the replies fellas   :happy2:

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Re: Brakes
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2012, 07:06:27 am »
DS2500 aren't road legal and if you never track the car they are overdone.


The best street parts for reasonable money:  :happy2:

- Brembo or Ate PowerDisc rotors
- Ferodo DS Performance
- Tyrol Sport caliper bushings
- Ate SuperBlue fluid


There are even better discs like Tarox Zero and better pads like Endless MX72,
but for street only you won't need really these.  :wink: All pads that beat the
DS Performance are not road legal (MX72, DS2500, RS4-2 etc.).

If you rate low dust over bite you might get Ate Ceramic pads instead. Stay
away from EBC pads. They're crap.

Bruce, how do you think the above would compare with an R32 brake kit (is there much performance difference?)

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Re: Brakes
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2012, 10:04:39 pm »
I've never driven the R32 setup on a GTI (just on R32, A3 3.2, S3 and TT 3.2 and this is some years ago).

With some added ventilation (removed shields, RS3 vent) it may perform similar at lower cost and weight.

However you won't overheat DS Performance pads on street if you drive in a license friendly manner.
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Re: Brakes
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 12:27:11 pm »
^^ Great thanks  :notworthy:

That should do for me then  :smiley:
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Re: Brakes
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2012, 01:12:10 pm »
Can you fit DS2500 pads to and R32 kit on a GTi?  :popcornsoda:
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Re: Brakes
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2012, 06:39:44 pm »
Why not? 'Can' or 'may'?

Try a shop if they supply DS2500 for the R32.
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Re: Brakes
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2012, 06:42:48 pm »
Sorry I meant legally...
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Re: Brakes
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 08:28:42 pm »
DS2500 aren't road legal and if you never track the car they are overdone.


The best street parts for reasonable money:  :happy2:

- Brembo or Ate PowerDisc rotors
- Ferodo DS Performance
- Tyrol Sport caliper bushings
- Ate SuperBlue fluid


There are even better discs like Tarox Zero and better pads like Endless MX72,
but for street only you won't need really these.  :wink: All pads that beat the
DS Performance are not road legal (MX72, DS2500, RS4-2 etc.).

If you rate low dust over bite you might get Ate Ceramic pads instead. Stay
away from EBC pads. They're crap.

Any links to these mate for an edition 30, bit of a novice on the modifiying front?

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Re: Brakes
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2012, 09:52:07 am »

Can you fit DS2500 pads to and R32 kit on a GTi?  :popcornsoda:


Sorry I meant legally...


....Surely, even during a MOT, the depth of the brake pads may be checked (I assume they are), but do they check what brand/type the pads are?

Why would the DS2500's be illegal anyway? - They aren't inadequate at braking a car.


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