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how long have you been running your uprated HPFP internals @ stage 2+

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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2012, 08:28:32 pm »
How much do apr charge to rebuild a pump then?
£478

http://www.goapr.co.uk/products/fsi_fuel_pump.html

The proviso here is your hpfp must be in good condition when you send it to APR.

So they rebuild a OEM fuel pump up to APR uprated spec?

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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2012, 08:38:50 pm »
How much do apr charge to rebuild a pump then?
£478

http://www.goapr.co.uk/products/fsi_fuel_pump.html

The proviso here is your hpfp must be in good condition when you send it to APR.

So they rebuild a OEM fuel pump up to APR uprated spec?

yeah basically

this is the Autotech argument - that APR are basically doing what anyone else does when fitting an Autotech, they're just charging over the odds for the privilege. they claim to test them, but i read somewhere once that the testing procedure is woefully inadequate, and well below the pressures that are attained in a car.

yes, they uprate the spring and the pump seal but i don't think that commands 2x-3x the price personally. i reckon there's enough evidence out there that the Autotechs are highly unlikely to fail (if installed properly and the latest version).

it's an exchange programme, so you give them your old pump and get another pump back with APR internals (provided that yours is good). historically it had to go off to APR in the USA (tho i don't think that's the case anymore)
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2012, 05:44:24 am »
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Do they give any sort of gaurantee with these?

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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2012, 05:46:59 am »

I have sold over 350 sets accross europe and never had 1 back with a failure.


....A more meaningful perspective would be to know a total of how many sets that Autotech have manufactured/sold.

PDT's data set would probably work out as being mathematically significant when testing the null hypothesis that Autotech internals don't fail.

this is a lot of anecdotal evidence that suggests failures are due to improper install, combined with the old design which i believe has been updated since? 

You don't have SPSS software by any chance do you Sub?

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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2012, 09:08:59 am »
Nope. Only needed it once in uni so used it there. How comes?
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2012, 12:52:09 pm »
My autotech has now close to 100k and no issues. I bought it second hand and quite sure it's a first generation. I let a friend who's a VW mechanic fit it.. Could be down to installation that are causing problems.
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2012, 07:06:24 pm »
Nope. Only needed it once in uni so used it there. How comes?

You seem to have a bit of a handle on the old statistical lingo! I used it extensively in my Psychology degree, MANOVA's ANOVA's ANCOVA's etc etc. I need to find someone with a licence, as my student copy ran out 3 years ago.

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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2012, 07:22:55 pm »
lol i just make it up as i go along.

i can't be any help with the SPSS i'm afraid
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